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John A. Rippingham 28-03-14 23:25

Got carried away!
 
Hello,

Here's some pictures of the carrier i have just got for restoration.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps11621ad7.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps9b3941f8.jpg


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psc69599d2.jpg


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps22488116.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psae91fd7c.jpg

I'm new to the carrier world, so any help and advice would be gratefully recieved. Really happy with what i've got, most of the armour is complete and not to rotten. Can spend the weekend looking at what else i have.

John

john

rampant rivet 28-03-14 23:31

well done
 
Hello john
Well its a lot better than a new kitchen me thinks :yappy: bet your pleased its home :) looks like it'll keep you out of any more mischief for a while, good luck with the resto I look forward to more pics in the daylight.

Cheers J.

RichardT10829 28-03-14 23:49

Mega jealous John.... I could only dream of having that much armour left !

Welcome to the family.

John A. Rippingham 28-03-14 23:54

Hello Jeremy,

Yeah the new kitchens gone on hold, the misses is very understanding...and thats the part of this i've not told her yet!!! :teach: I have promised to do the tilly before i start the carrier, so i think i've met her halfway. :salute:

Looking forward to working out what i do have and what i don't and where i'm going to find it. Had fun pushing it up the drive with the FWD which made light work of it.

John

John A. Rippingham 28-03-14 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardT10829 (Post 193634)
Mega jealous John.... I could only dream of having that much armour left !

Welcome to the family.

:note: thank you richard. I think i've been very lucky with this from what i've been told so far, fingers crossed i don't have any nasty suprises over the weekend. Lots and lots of questions to come.

john

Ron Pier 29-03-14 08:35

Nice to see another carrier in UK John. I'll also look forward to seeing more pictures in day light.
Also are there any links to your Tilly? Mine's an Austin!

Ron

shaun 29-03-14 10:02

Hi John, that is a good project ! A friend just up the road from me bought the other carrier from Hughes.

Looks like they were both stripped and cut to the same degree. It should not take long to do .

If I be of help just from me a line

John A. Rippingham 29-03-14 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Pier (Post 193652)
Nice to see another carrier in UK John. I'll also look forward to seeing more pictures in day light.
Also are there any links to your Tilly? Mine's an Austin!

Ron

Hello Ron,

I've got a hillman waiting it's turn. I've been collecting parts for a couple of years now, could do with some rear body parts.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psac5f9b40.jpg

Will put some more picture up later,

john

shaun 29-03-14 11:31

I sold my hilman a Tilly a few years back , what parts are you looking for ?

John A. Rippingham 29-03-14 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaun (Post 193655)
Hi John, that is a good project ! A friend just up the road from me bought the other carrier from Hughes.

Looks like they were both stripped and cut to the same degree. It should not take long to do .

If I be of help just from me a line

I saw the other one when i looked at this. that looked quite good too.

Hillman parts, what have you got mate...

kevin powles 29-03-14 12:14

Hi John, Did the dash I sent arrive safe with the Cd's, the fuc03 cat is the carrier bible.

Kevin.

John A. Rippingham 29-03-14 12:28

Dash arrived
 
Hello Kevin,

Thanks mate the dash arrived safely. The CD was damged as it was rattling around in the box, must have come loose.

john

John A. Rippingham 29-03-14 22:06

some more pictures.
 
Hello,

A few more pictures of my carrier. Had a lovely sunny day today, so started cleaning out and having a look at what i ha bought.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psfbf45898.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psbbf736b4.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psdaf880fe.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psbe813b02.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps32fece2d.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psaeffad23.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps168113e0.jpg

Why is there a block of wood bolted to the hull by the side of the engine?

I seem to be missing some links of the steering mechanism?

Filled a couple of buckets of soil from it today, found a number stamped in the metal behind the passenger seat. Hull number i think? Where will the other be? and is there any chance i can find the wd number from them?

The drivers side of the hull has been drill in two places with four holes each, can anybody recoginse these?

Please P.M. me if you have any of the parts i'm missing, i have got the front idlers but the rest is yet to be found begged borrowed and remade.

john

RichardT10829 29-03-14 22:22

John make a list and we will help best we can, you have my details matey dirk Leegwater has complete nos dash built up.... Hopefully Kevin helped you out and you got the dash panel at a good price.

Regarding the holes, If it's at the rear end of the lower hull it's for the fuel tank straps.

Phil Waterman 29-03-14 22:26

Loved the last pictures
 
Hi John

Looks like a great project, I particularly like the pictures of you and the kids out playing in the yard.

These things have a way of becoming part of family folklore and great memories.

Keep us posted on the progress.

Cheers Phil

John A. Rippingham 29-03-14 23:17

Expensive hoddy.
 
Hello,

Thanks richard, i'm adding to the list all the time, as i learn more about the carriers. The holes are near the top of the hull.

Phill, thanks,

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psed24d529.jpg

RichardT10829 29-03-14 23:38

If it's the four that are in a diamond type
Format, looking at your pics in your album, it's for the smoke discharger bracket

John A. Rippingham 29-03-14 23:48

Yes that the ones richard. This picture shows them, there are also four behind them?
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps431caeb1.jpg
thanks

john

eddy8men 30-03-14 00:00

hi john

if you like I can come to you and do a quick list of things you need and where to pick them up at the right money. :thup2:

rick

ps. welcome to the carrier club

RichardT10829 30-03-14 00:20

The four at the rear end near the top of te armour are for the radio antenna bracket ;-) the four near the front above te discharger holes are for the bren pintle mount

What your going through now is what I loved the most about carriers ! Learning what everything was etc etc !

John A. Rippingham 30-03-14 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddy8men (Post 193686)
hi john

if you like I can come to you and do a quick list of things you need and where to pick them up at the right money. :thup2:

rick

ps. welcome to the carrier club

Great, thanks rick i'll give you a call to sort something out.

John A. Rippingham 30-03-14 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardT10829 (Post 193688)
The four at the rear end near the top of te armour are for the radio antenna bracket ;-) the four near the front above te discharger holes are for the bren pintle mount

What your going through now is what I loved the most about carriers ! Learning what everything was etc etc !

Thank you richard, yes i'm very much looking forward to learning more.

Lynn Eades 30-03-14 02:15

Hi John, and welcome.
The bad news is that your hull number is gone with the piece cut from in front of the driver. Any chance of tracking down the cut out piece?
Regarding the holes at the right rear (Aerial mount) Nigel Ward made them. there is a long thread about them if you do a search.
I see the division plate Bren mount (pintle mount) bracket laying on your inner guard (track guard)
She looks like she is in great condition. It would be great to be able to start from there.
Don't be scared to ask questions, and keep the photos coming.

John A. Rippingham 30-03-14 07:38

hello lynn
 
Hello Lynn,

The piece of cut armour is in canada somewhere, so not much chance of finding it. I didn't think the small bracket had made it onto a photo but you spotted it.

So what i've got is a standard MK 1 canadian carrier?

John

Lynn Eades 30-03-14 08:24

To get it more accurately it's a :
Carrier Universal, No2 MkI* (the no2 is the 85 hp motor)
The star is important because it denotes " built in Canada (by Ford)
without the star it's british built (which it is not) There are many differences between the two.
You have the most common of the carrier variants. This means when you are looking for a part, the correct one for your carrier is (relatively) easier to find.

I know it' a long shot, but maybe that piece of steel is sitting on a nog in a shed where the carrier came from. sometimes the bits are just sitting there still. If you ask the worst result is "no, it's gone"

John A. Rippingham 30-03-14 09:21

I've been wondering what the * ment thanks.

Whats the best way to find when it was made?

john

Lynn Eades 30-03-14 10:36

Most of the fittings on your carrier will have the year of manufacture of that part, so you will be able to quite quickly get close. 1941? or 42?
The radiator will have a little brass tag soldered to it up in the curved bit at the top where the fan goes past. It will give month and year.
Be careful with that nice looking steering wheel.
Take lots of photos even for the mundane stuff, like which way bolts go in, and if you're removing rivets, which holes have flat ones or none (for bolts?)
If your're good with a welder or you know someone who is, then you might be able to patch rather than replace?

John A. Rippingham 30-03-14 11:00

Thanks Lynn will have a look today for the dates.

I have a friend who is a very good welder so i'm hoping to patch the piece in front of the driver. Can armour plate be welded with normal mild steel rods or do i need something different?

John

eddy8men 30-03-14 11:20

hi john

the hull number is stamped on the top of the angle iron behind the gunner seat but i'll show you when I come over.
I used normal mig wire when I rebuilt my t16 with no issues other than when doing short welds on the wading plates when I had a few that cracked the weld when cooling, all the long armour welds where fine, maybe it has something to do with the heat and how much you're putting into it but whatever the reason you'll be fine with a standard mig.

rick

Lynn Eades 30-03-14 11:33

Stainless works well. It is what they used when they built the first welded hulls.


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