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RichardT10829 29-08-13 11:38

1943 universal carrier Mk1* for sale
 
I have no connection to the seller, but thought I would share it for those on the hunt for a carrier, currently on milweb, and located in Canada.

http://www.milweb.net/webverts/69123/

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Complete uncut hull, with all vision armour. Rebuilt carrier flathead with proper rebuilt carburetor. Proper transmission , not rebuilt. Proper radiator, oil cooler , engine covers, NOS headlights and brackets. Tracks come with vehicle, dash missing most instruments, NOS MK2 speedometer also included. Missing gas tanks and some stowage boxes. Can easily fit into standard shipping container. Very solid and complete project , would make for easy restoration.
Asking £22500.

Vehicle is located in Canada so please allow for time change when calling.

Sandy Marshall : 01 705 444 1121 .

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Hans Mulder 29-08-13 18:22

Hmm, no track?

Harry Moon 29-08-13 18:31

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Originally Posted by Hans Mulder (Post 184726)
Hmm, no track?

Yes they say they are included locked up in a vault with the gold plating and all....

Hans Mulder 30-08-13 18:13

d'oh... Nice point to start a project, but pricey...

Paul Dutton 30-08-13 23:13

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Originally Posted by Hans Mulder (Post 184788)
d'oh... Nice point to start a project, but pricey...

Is that price Lire?? , roubles?? Even as C$ it's way over the top, at least clean some green off n show the gold below!!

Bruce Parker (RIP) 31-08-13 01:45

Carriers on Milweb
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Dutton (Post 184802)
Is that price Lire?? , roubles?? Even as C$ it's way over the top, at least clean some green off n show the gold below!!

There is, or recently were, about three other carriers on Milweb. Some restored and some not but all with equally high prices. It will be interesting to see if any sell even close to the asking prices.

chris vickery 31-08-13 02:36

Wish I knew where there was a barn full of carriers. I could retire... :p

Lynn Eades 31-08-13 03:02

Makes the Gum tree one look o.k. now, doesn't it.

Kirk Armitage 31-08-13 03:48

Heads Up
 
Hmmm ,think I'll have to get a bigger dog to guard the ones in the barn !
Kirk Armitage :D

colin jones 31-08-13 03:57

Just going by what the carriers are worth on the dark side from here, I thought it wasn't too bad.
The tracks are there, rebuilt engine and what looks to be a fairly sound,
complete hull and lots of I guess hard to find parts on the ground. At that price, does that mean 50k - 70K for a restored one is far more than they are worth over there.
Colin :confused :cheers: :)

Bruce Parker (RIP) 31-08-13 04:10

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Originally Posted by colin jones (Post 184810)
Just going by what the carriers are worth on the dark side from here, I thought it wasn't too bad.
The tracks are there, rebuilt engine and what looks to be a fairly sound,
complete hull and lots of I guess hard to find parts on the ground. At that price, does that mean 50k - 70K for a restored one is far more than they are worth over there.
Colin :confused :cheers: :)

Have any sold for that recently? Of those (if any) that have sold, does anyone know what the prices were?

I mean, there has to be a cap on how may people there are out there who are willing to pay $20K for a project and $70 for a complete one...right?

Wayne Henderson 31-08-13 07:32

Carrier prices
 
Carriers seem to be in fashion worldwide. The asking price and the selling price are always based on pure science and a calculated mathmatical formula
based on the thickness of an individuals wallet.

I bought a carrier about a year ago with some armour missing (standard) no motor, good track, a jack and some tools, radiator, air filters and the seats and steering all there. $1000 and $400 to get it home.

I bought another hull in better condition a few months ago with an engine cover and all road wheels but no diff or track for the same price.
I also travel hundreds of miles looking for these parts, not Gumtree.

A carrier sold here in WA last year for $14k complete, restored and running.
One sold at J Swans clearance a couple of years ago for $23K or abouts

When I sell one of mine do you think I'll be asking $70k pounds?
Why not if some one is dumb enough to pay that.

Wayne.

Paul Dutton 31-08-13 09:14

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Originally Posted by Wayne Henderson (Post 184819)
Carriers seem to be in fashion worldwide. The asking price and the selling price are always based on pure science and a calculated mathmatical formula
based on the thickness of an individuals wallet.

I bought a carrier about a year ago with some armour missing (standard) no motor, good track, a jack and some tools, radiator, air filters and the seats and steering all there. $1000 and $400 to get it home.

I bought another hull in better condition a few months ago with an engine cover and all road wheels but no diff or track for the same price.
I also travel hundreds of miles looking for these parts, not Gumtree.

A carrier sold here in WA last year for $14k complete, restored and running.
One sold at J Swans clearance a couple of years ago for $23K or abouts

When I sell one of mine do you think I'll be asking $70k pounds?
Why not if some one is dumb enough to pay that.

Wayne.

Problem is some people have over inflated values of what they have.
Ive been after one for ages, done a deal on few only for silly money ones to pop up on Milweb and kick the arse out of the deal!!
One in Italy, complete, history from North Afrika and Sicily. Used to dig the Turin Tunnel with a drilling rig on the front, still there and price asking for a resto was about £30K!
I was booking my flights to view when they wouldnt drop price!
Dont worry, got one in pipeline and as soon as I get mine the interest will fall off and you will all be able to get one for couple $K. :giveup

Lynn Eades 31-08-13 10:48

Just food for thought.
How much does $25,000 worth buy in the way of a pretty common sort of a motor car? About half of one?
Something you can go down the road and buy on any average day. (assuming you have the money to spare)

At home it would cost around $60,000 for a reasonable speced V8 Holden Commodore. (average to good, nice new car)
How does that compare to something you can't find?

You are right about how it happens Paul,(that's just life) but depending on which side of ownership your on, it changes how you see it.
Be discerning about what you buy. There is not a lot of NOS carrier parts floating around the world waiting for you to trip over. If you don't get one with most of the bits, you are going to be making the bits, because your tired of waiting for them to turn up.
BTW, after you made them, they will turn up. :D

rob love 31-08-13 14:28

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Originally Posted by Lynn Eades (Post 184825)
BTW, after you made them, they will turn up. :D

Yep.



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RichardT10829 02-09-13 10:33

I thought 20k was about right for what was there... Rebuilt engine and uncut hull... Plenty of the right bits. As Lynn has already said, an average new car in the UK will set you back about 20 - 30k. Carriers are not in abundance, any ww2 armour will command money, and something that is easy....ish to move about like a carrier is even more...... And don't even think of trying to purchase German armour, unless you are seriously loaded.

I got my carrier at a good price, but look what I have had to go through to get it back to where it is now..... And it's still not finished ! Countless coins spent searching for bits... Hunting patterns out, re creating armour.....don't even get me started on the price of tooling.

Paul, this harks back to your initial thread about wanting a carrier... The project may seem expensive but it may save you on costs for tooling or making more bits. Not to mention time ! I am four years into my build partly because I work full time shift work, but partly because it is not a cheap hobby, and unlike some, I cannot throw top dollar at the project and get it done quickly. Which means when I am hunting for parts which others are also hunting for..... I cannot offer the same coinage to the seller to get it.... Ultimately it means I have to think outside the box....again it takes time.


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