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Keith Webb 21-03-12 11:45

Making new rubber
 
I have an original Ford CMP gear lever boot in almost perfect condition, far too good to use on a vehicle.

http://idisk.me.com/oldcmp.net/Publi...321-204212.jpg

Can anyone recommend someone who could reproduce these, or alternately is there anything like this available now?

Private_collector 21-03-12 12:07

Whoa!!!
 
Congratulations Keith,

This is the ONLY one of these I have ever seen. I didn't even know what it was supposed to look like before your photo.

A mould/mold (? spelling) could be made fairly easily, and others produced for sure. As to who, I know not. You wouldn't want to see this damaged by amateur attempt.

If you ever get to that stage & are considering making them for sale, I would take 2 straight away.

Think on :D

Keith Webb 21-03-12 12:13

Boot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Private_collector (Post 162144)
Congratulations Keith,

This is the ONLY one of these I have ever seen. I didn't even know what it was supposed to look like before your photo.

A mould/mold (? spelling) could be made fairly easily, and others produced for sure. As to who, I know not. You wouldn't want to see this damaged by amateur attempt.

If you ever get to that stage & are considering making them for sale, I would take 2 straight away.

Think on :D

Hopefully someone will come up with a good way to do these. I recall Max Hedges had a couple made but they were not really perfect and it was a long time ago so hopefully technology has improved since then.
Will post some more pics tomorrow for your drooling, er viewing pleasure.

Keith Webb 21-03-12 12:19

Reproductions
 
Have just sent an email and pic to Scotts Old Rubber A they say they do reproductions and are close to me.

Keith Webb 21-03-12 12:24

Scotts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Webb (Post 162147)
Have just sent an email and pic to Scotts Old Rubber A they say they do reproductions and are close to me.

Nope, they can't help.

Private_collector 21-03-12 12:25

You tease! :D

Mike K 21-03-12 12:27

Seymour
 
I guy with the surname Seymour , used to have a stand at various swap meets , BENDIGO was one , he made rubber components to your wish.

I haven't seen or heard of him for some years , he advertised in RESTORED CARS magazine . He had a large display board with his products . he made All types of weird parts eg. pedal rubbers for rare, obscure cars . Engine mounts and other bits .

MIKE

Private_collector 21-03-12 12:34

2 Attachment(s)
Attachment 47926 Attachment 47927
I once made this Pharaoh mask for my sons primary school Egypt project.
I molded his phace :D to make it. Does that qualify me to try :devil:

Or should I phu.. off?

Keith Webb 21-03-12 12:37

Plotting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Private_collector (Post 162152)
Attachment 47926 Attachment 47927
I once made this Pharaoh mask for my sons primary school Egypt project.
I molded his phace :D to make it. Does that qualify me to try :devil:

Or should I phu.. off?

I see through your dastardly plan Tony... I send it up for you to reproduce... next you send me a pic of it on your truck! :no4:

Private_collector 21-03-12 12:41

Curses. Foiled again.

And I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those damn kids! :bang:

Mike K 21-03-12 12:57

Castaway
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Private_collector (Post 162152)
Attachment 47926 Attachment 47927
I once made this Pharaoh mask for my sons primary school Egypt project.
I molded his phace :D to make it. Does that qualify me to try :devil:

Or should I phu.. off?

That Pharoh face reminds me of that Tom Hanks movie. He is marooned on a deserted Island and makes a friend out of a soccer ball . " WILSON .........WILSON " MIKE

Private_collector 21-03-12 13:12

Mold Making Techniques
 
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Keith,

I have this instructional DVD on a large range of mold making methods.
Attachment 47932
I will review it tomorrow night & arrange to send you a copy, if it proves to have useful information.

Often these things can be made 'in-house' with the right knowledge & materials.

If the copyright holder sees this post.......I am kidding about everything I just said. I would never do that!Anyhow, i'll get back to you tomorrow nocte with the verdict. It may be a handy FYI thing to have anyway.

T.

Lauren Child 22-03-12 01:04

There's a book here that may help -
http://www.frost.co.uk/classic-vehic...-a-cannon.html

They also do a kit here - http://www.frost.co.uk/automotive-mi...-kit-500g.html

I too would love one if you manage to make a few.

Lang 22-03-12 01:56

Keith,

The blokes who do the lost-wax casting for sculptors to produce bronze (or any material) sculptures could do this standing on their head. Find some arty person and they will be able to track one down or I think the phone book might be a help.

I had a mold of some rubber like material made to produce Dodge bonnet badges. Seem to remember it cost under $100. I just pour two pack resin into the mold (made from an original badge) and have put out about 20 badges. Once painted you can not tell them from original. Looks like the mold could produce hundreds indefinitely.

The rubber bit you are talking about could be used to make a solid mold (inner and outer) then the rubber mould material could be poured in. Once set, popped out and repeated ad infinitem. One offs are no problem as you only need mix enough rubber compound for the order.

Lang

Keith Webb 22-03-12 03:20

Thanks
 
Thanks Tony, Lang, Lauren and Mike.

Be interested to hear what you think of the DVD.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Private_collector (Post 162157)
Keith,

I have this instructional DVD on a large range of mold making methods.
Attachment 47932
I will review it tomorrow night & arrange to send you a copy, if it proves to have useful information.

Often these things can be made 'in-house' with the right knowledge & materials.

If the copyright holder sees this post.......I am kidding about everything I just said. I would never do that!Anyhow, i'll get back to you tomorrow nocte with the verdict. It may be a handy FYI thing to have anyway.

T.


Mike K 22-03-12 04:21

Wilson, my friend
 
My best mate . Wilson .

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9cLeFoGkaG...600/Wilson.jpg

Cameron Reed 22-03-12 05:37

repo
 
Hi Keith,
there was a place in Amberley cresent in Dandynong called Ambassador Rubber I know they do minimum runs of stuff definately worth a call
good luck put me down for a couple if you have a win

Keith Webb 22-03-12 07:12

Ambassador
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameron Reed (Post 162208)
Hi Keith,
there was a place in Amberley cresent in Dandynong called Ambassador Rubber I know they do minimum runs of stuff definately worth a call
good luck put me down for a couple if you have a win

This is the place: http://www.ambassindustrial.com.au/m...-products.html

Will get in touch, although they do look like they're geared to large scale production.

Private_collector 22-03-12 11:13

Mold Making DVD
 
Keith,

I have looked through the DVD, and it does have some useful information worth looking at. A lot of the techniques don't relate to your specific project, but at time of writing this post, I am attempting to copy the DVD using Pinnacle software.

I will send a private message once/if copy is successful.

As I said last night, DVD is worth having in full copy, even though it is 2.5hrs!

Added @ 20:20hrs: Pinnacle is still creating the file to print. 1/2 way there!After watching the DVD, I don't think it would be difficult to create a good mold of your own doing!

See Dalchem at Cheltenhan, VIC. for molding materials http://www.dalchem.com.au
Also Barnes, in QLD, N.S.W & VIC. http://www.barnes.com.au
Or Aldax Moulds, in N.S.W http://www.aldaxstore.com.au or http://rubbermoulds.com.au

Private_collector 23-03-12 02:35

DVD Ready for sending
 
Keith,

Send me a PM with your address & I will mail the copy of that DVD.

T.

sth65pac 11-04-12 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Webb (Post 162142)
Can anyone recommend someone who could reproduce these, or alternately is there anything like this available now?

Yes:
Old Rubber Co may be able to help.

Address:
4/4 Appin Plc, Dunheyed Industrial Park
Dunheved NSW 2760
Phone:
(02) 9623 5333

The Reproduction Falcon XY GT quarter window rubbers they supply to Rare Spares were made from originals I supplied over 25 years ago.

They also make a Lot of Ford and Chev Rubbers, and Morris Leyland etc.

Regards,

Ian


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