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Bob Phillips 16-06-11 04:19

M38A1 CDN first production
 
Does anyone out there have a date and or serial (?) numbers for the first M38A1s built in Canada? I have an early one (mid January 1953) and I wonder where it fits in the production run?? Thanks..

Eric B 16-06-11 15:03

M38A1 in 1952
 
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There were some M38A1's delivered in 1952.

Here is a photo of one.

Eric

Mike Baker 16-06-11 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Phillips (Post 148645)
Does anyone out there have a date and or serial (?) numbers for the first M38A1s built in Canada? I have an early one (mid January 1953) and I wonder where it fits in the production run?? Thanks..

My understanding is that Ford S/Ns started with "F000000" (or maybe "1" at the end). If you can find the Ford number, then you'll know where it fell in the production run.

Comox Air Force Museum 16-06-11 21:59

Hi Bob. Hope this helps. To find this info I phoned, Ford of Canada helpline.

Trucks were built from 11-28-1952 Till 3-24-53. Serial # started at
200041 and ran to 200750. For a total of 709 trucks. They were delivered to 27 ORD. DEP London Ont. The truck we have at the museum is
Ser. # 200586 and was built on 3-23-53. our CFR-53-833. Hope this helps, with your query.
Rob

rob love 16-06-11 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comox Air Force Museum (Post 148667)
Hi Bob. Hope this helps. To find this info I phoned, Ford of Canada helpline.

Trucks were built from 11-28-1952 Till 3-24-53. Serial # started at
200041 and ran to 200750. For a total of 709 trucks. They were delivered to 27 ORD. DEP London Ont. The truck we have at the museum is
Ser. # 200586 and was built on 3-23-53. our CFR-53-833. Hope this helps, with your query.
Rob

If yours was serial 586 (which would have been the 545th out of 709, and built on the 23 of March, then they must have been some busy making the last 164 trucks by the next day (24 Mar 53). Perhaps the 3-23-53 was the delivery/ inspection date rather than the build date?

Great information mind you. Of course, the records of things like this will not always be spot on 60 years later.

Bob Phillips 17-06-11 22:51

M38A1 numbers
 
Thankyou Gentlemen for your help !
My jeep is #200286 Delivered Jan 14 1953 That makes it the 245th off the production line. It is a very clean original jeep with minor civilian mods (lights ) and I am the second civilian owner. It sat many years in a garage, outof the weather but not out of the moisture/humidity. When I went to puchase it we (vendor & seller) were surprised to find the engine stuck. When I bought it pulled it apart there was considerable rust in the valve train, seats etc and the explanation seems to be that the oil pan/sump was overfilled, much of it with gasoline which appears to have washed all the lubrication out of the top end of the engine. Too much carburation ? or leaking fuel pump or ??...All nicely overhauled now!

peter simundson 17-06-11 23:21

Bob Phillips
 
I want to see you at the 25th Show.

I get tired of answering the question "So where's Bob Phillips????"

And bring some treasure to sell.

Your pal Simundson.

Bob Phillips 18-06-11 02:05

see you on th 25th
 
Thanks for the invite Peter ! I will see if I can find something to bring. I need a data plate for my M38, the one with the dates and numbers of a Canadian (vs US which is what I have now) Got Any in your vast hoard??..Bob

302Trooper 18-06-11 05:53

M38A1 CDN Facts
 
Interesting numbers. A fellow by the name of Bob Clarke quoted me the same number last month. I thought there would have been over 1000 orderd by the Canadian Army. My jeep is F-200283 delivery date 01-14-53 making it the 242 jeep built. My Dad has the original CFR recorded somewhere in his files. I am busy stripping down my 68 CDN 2 which is in very rough shape, to make room for this jeep. My childhood friends dad bought this jeep in 71. My Dad with his M38 and this A1 spent many a weekend together driving the power lines of Sudbury and making apperances in parades. The jeep stayed in his family being passed on. I had inquired about its availability. I received a call in 2002 that the jeep was mine and I was to meet one of the brothers who was the current owner to bring the jeep to my house. The jeep was stolen from its storage location, gone and I figured dismantled for parts. Time goes by and 9 yrs later I find the jeep on the side of the road. The jeep was recovered thanks to keeping the ownership all these years. I finally got my jeep funny though this would be my third as I had accepted the jeep was gone and found a CDN 3 and a CDN 2 last summer as I really wanted one. When you least expect it things pop up. :thup2:

Dave
302Trooper

spinnerhawken 20-06-11 22:45

Bob, if you still need a M38 Cdn plate I may be able to help you out. Steve H


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