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steinsland 21-01-10 23:10

C60S gross weight
 
hi i need some help with something.
i have get me a new canadian wrecker chervolet c60s 1943 model.
and i try to get down the gross weight to 7,5 tonn.
then i can drive the car by the law in norway.
all the books i have look at says 7265 kg (16000 pound).
the man who i get the numberlicens from say i have to have a paper from the factory or copy of a paper from a similar car.
if anyone have a car like this ,can you then tell me what gross weight is?
mvh
klaus steinsland
klastei@online.no

Hanno Spoelstra 21-01-10 23:31

Klaus,

I looked up the vehicle registration document details of C60S with licence plate BE-15-69 (all details of registered vehicles are on line in the Netherlands):

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...s/DSCN1336.jpg
Empty weight: 5.570 kg
Maximum load: 1.052 kg
Maximum permissible weight: 6.622 kg

Normally historic vehicles will have to be officially weighed before registration, so most vehicle documents will show different weights. Compare with C60S SB-01-24, for example:

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...58_resized.jpg
Empty weight: 5.157 kg
Maximum load: 675 kg
Maximum permissible weight: 5.832 kg

At least they are well under 7.5 tons!

You are lucky you can drive a 7.5 ton truck on a car licence in Norway, the maximum here is 3.5 tons :(

Hope this helps, please share a picture of your Wrecker with us!
Hanno

steinsland 21-01-10 23:57

thanks for the info .
in the paper i have the gross weight is 8000 kg.
i maybe have to take a discusion with the man in the uniform.
and hope the can give me some lower grosswight .
best regards
klaus steinsland
norway

Hanno Spoelstra 22-01-10 00:02

Klaus,

Take it to a weighbridge and get an official weighing letter. That should end the discussion with the civil servant, wouldn't it?

Hanno

Grant Bowker 22-01-10 00:29

In Ontario, Canada we can register a gross weight of our choice between the empty weight of the vehicle and the manufacturer's rated gross weight. The licence fee (tax) and the rules governing use of the vehicle and drivers licence required vary depending on the registered gross weight. The maximum weight that we can operate the vehicle at is the smallest of the manufacturer's rated gross, the registered gross, the weight limit of our driver's licence. It does get more complex if we tow a trailer but this is the basic rule. Obviously, choosing to register a weight close to the empty weight of the vehicle will limit the ability to carry cargo. If your rules are like ours, this could help you.
Do you think that a copy of the page from the vehicle data book reproduced by Bill Gregg would help the officials to understand the original ratings? The book gives both empty and loaded weight ratings for the front and rear axles.

steinsland 22-01-10 22:46

i can take it to a weightbridge but they will not give me lower grossweight
for that . i have to get a copy of others cars grossweight.
maybe then they will give me the right grossweight.
i have some picture but idont no how to get it on the forum.
best regards
klaus

zemsi 23-01-10 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by steinsland (Post 125022)
i have some picture but idont no how to get it on the forum.

Hi Klaus

Look here for a little explanation. Probably your pics are too big to upload. Then you'll have to resize them first or upload them at a free pics hoster like imageshack.

Greetings
Chris

steinsland 24-01-10 16:33

i have some picture in a forum in norway.
i hope this link is ok.
i have to change the brakes sylinder and fix the masterpump anyone now if the size is like the chervolet c15a i have or are they bigger.

http://rolfsask.proboards.com/index....ay&thread=1848

best regards
klaus steinsland
norway

Lynn Eades 24-01-10 20:43

Klaus
 
Do you have a manual?
There should be specifications in the manual.
Military vehicles were usually designated with an "off road" carrying capacity(GVM) which was conservative (for example the Jimmy 6x6 was rated at 2.5 ton for off road, and (essentially) the same truck as a 6x4 was rated as 5 ton, on road.
I think the authorities are now looking for the manufacturers ratings, and a manual with those specifications, should satisfy them.
I have found that the specs. changed during production, and providing the specs from the manual from the right printing, was enough to get me through.
My vehicle was a WC 54(?) 3/4 ton Dodge Ambulance, the carrying capacity went up from 15cwt to 18cwt,during production, so I used the earlier service manual specifications.
Good luck!

Hanno Spoelstra 25-01-10 13:58

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Originally Posted by Lynn Eades (Post 125135)
There should be specifications in the manual.

Here´s an example, although it lists Ford specs and not the Wrecker specifically.

Hanno Spoelstra 25-01-10 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by steinsland (Post 125130)
i have to change the brakes sylinder and fix the masterpump anyone now if the size is like the chervolet c15a i have or are they bigger

Klaus,

The brake cylinders are the same for 15-cwt to 60-cwt trucks:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 118496)
See the Parts/Sources/Prices section on this forum for part numbers. Wheels cylinders can be bought new, they are the same on Chevrolets and Fords. The master brake cylinder for Chevrolets are difficult to find, if you have one it would be best to have it rebuilt.

Hanno

steinsland 27-01-10 16:29

i have mailet a company in the usa raybesto but i dont get anyting back.
maybe they dont sell out of usa .or do i have to wait a few week to get a mail back.if anyone can help i be happy i have to order brake wheelsylinder
for 2 stk chervolet c60s and 1 stk chervolet c15a.
the masterpump cant i get or?
maybe its best to rebuild that.
mvh
klaus steinsland
klastei@online.no

steinsland 29-01-10 21:53

brakes
 
i have to buy new brake wheelsylinder for two chervolet c60s and for one chervolet c15a.is there some company here in europa who can delivery
this thing. beacause i dont get any feedback from the company in USA.
:bang:
best regards
klaus steinsland
klastei@online.no

Bob Carriere 29-01-10 22:13

Bad news Klaus
 
Chevrolet master brake cylinders are no longer available..... and unless you find a new old stock for sale by a collector or on Ebay..... you are out of luck.

The most common practice in Canada is to have them rebuilt by a professinal that does this specialized work. They will ream out the inside and install a full SS stainless steel insert and a full rebuild kit. The resulting work is usually good for life....... or at least your life...... cost is about $200 Canadian.

Bob C.

steinsland 29-01-10 22:34

hi the master sylinder for brakes that i understand i have to get a company to rebuilt .i just want to buy new wheel sylinder and i have seen i this forum that i can get some with the name raybesto + partsnr i hope this is right name .i have seen this on a web page and they look very similar(i hope i write
correct no,my english are not the best :cool:
i also have sendt them many mail but no mail back .
best regards
klaus steinsland

cletrac (RIP) 29-01-10 23:51

If I send a letter to Europe it takes about 10 days for it to get there and another 10 for the reply to get back to me. That's three weeks of waiting.
I managed to find a NOS master cylinder for my C8 on ebay with a buy it now price of $99 so I grabbed it up. The military ones are different to the civilian ones.

steinsland 30-01-10 06:43

i have not sendt mail but email i remeber now what mail is. :)
mvh
klaus


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