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Hanno Spoelstra 24-03-09 14:35

Pictures of CMP trucks pulling trailers
 
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As I was asked recently for pictures of CMPs pulling trailers, I have posted a few here.

First, a couple of 20-cwts:

Picture taken during the liberation of Amsterdam, Netherlands:
Attachment 137907
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/show...hp?photo=35739


Picture taken near the end of WW2 in Groningen, Netherlands:
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http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/show...hp?photo=52335


Anyone who can add to this, please do!

Thanks,

Phil Waterman 24-03-09 15:11

Trailers only or towed equipment?
 
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Do you want to include all towed equipment or only "trailers". Either way below is one of my favorites.

Cheers Phil

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Hanno Spoelstra 24-03-09 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman (Post 111528)
Do you want to include all towed equipment or only "trailers". Either way below is one of my favorites.

Phil,

The idea is to show CMP owners what types of trailers were used behind their trucks. Your picture is a great example of a lowly Ben Hur trailer being lucky enough to be hitched up with a CMP truck ;)

What is the date/location of your picture?

I guess other towed equipment would be fine too, although threads exist for Bofors guns and the like.

Phil Waterman 24-03-09 20:36

Signals Picture from Keith Webb's Oldcmp site
 
The photo is from Keith Webb’s excellent site http://www.oldcmp.net/

The caption reads “Ford F60L with a demountable body towing a trailer mounted generator. Thanks to phil Waterman I can tell you this is an S56 Shelter Box intended for use as a slide in radio or communications van in a US deuce and a half truck. The picture was taken in Victoria in the early 1950s whilst serving in the Australian Army.” http://www.oldcmp.net/signals.html

Unfortunately at the moment the photos on page are currently unavailable.

I particularly like this photo as it was the first time that I found an S56 signals body mounted on a CMPs, since then I have found other examples. Use of the US slide in Signals Bodies such as S56 which I have on my C60S and is explained on http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.com/RadioBox.html

Hanno Spoelstra 24-03-09 22:58

Thanks Phil!

The photo below features another CMP towing a standard US Army 1-ton trailer, this time an Otter (possibly one in use with a Engineer field coy).

EDIT: this is a 20-cwt water trailer - not a 1-ton Ben Hur trailer

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/at...4&d=1057462422
Linked from On a Normandy beach...

Hanno Spoelstra 25-03-09 00:12

Another US-built trailer, this time one of the 1/4-ton variant:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 54268)
Reportedly, this is a Royal Canadian Dragoons vehicle which was pictured at a place called De Blesse. Census number seems to be CZ4256418, if I read it right.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data.../De_Blesse.jpg

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 95970)
Here's another picture of a Ford F15A in Holland. Note the 10-cwt trailer and recognition star painted on the cab roof and inside of roof hatch. Census number CZ4285711, unit sign "68". Picture credit: Public Archives Canada. Published in Kaufman/Horn: De Canadezen in Nederland 1944~1945. No details re. location, date, etc. printed.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...11_resized.jpg


gjamo 25-03-09 09:29

Trailers
 
What a mungrel that would be to reverse.

Tony Smith 25-03-09 10:18

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Ford F60L with Nunn Generator Trailer.

Caption for AWM 099953:
"RABAUL, NEW BRITAIN, 1946-03-30. THE CREW OF UNIT NO 149, MOBILE CINEMA HQ, AUSTRALIAN ARMY AMENITIES SERVICE, MOVING OUT FROM CAMP FOR THEIR ALLOTTED FILM SITE. SIX OF THESE UNITS SERVICE THE AREA WITH DOUBLE FEATURE PROGRAMMES TWICE A WEEK AT TWELVE SPECIAL SITES."

Note Truck and Trailer are numbered as a set.

Phil Waterman 25-03-09 17:02

I think they all are
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gjamo (Post 111573)
What a mungrel that would be to reverse.

Couple of interesting points about towing trailers behind 3 ton CMPs, First there was no agreement between the US and Commonwealth about which was going to swivel, the lunette or the pintle also as just how large each was to be. I once towed a WWII US water buffalo trailer with a fixed lunette behind my C60S with a fixed pintle, the owner of the trailer was much alarmed at the bending of the frame that took place (non of it permanent) that took place as I pulled the trailer up out of a field and onto the highway.
The second point is that it seems to matter little what you are towing in way of a trailer behind a big CMP you can not see the trailer to back it up. That’s why the military had co-drivers to get out and direct. One last point the CMP style of spring mounted pintle clanks more empty or loaded than the US style. Though I have seen pictures of CMP trucks hanging from their pintles which I don’t think the US style could match.


Cheers Phil

Hanno Spoelstra 26-03-09 23:55

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C15A towing 10-cwt trailer, both Australian.

Courtesy of Keith.

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Lang 27-03-09 06:40

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Here are some australian ones in the Pacific and Egypt.

Hanno Spoelstra 01-07-24 21:09

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Photo of a C15TA pulling a 1/4-ton trailer - found on the internet.

Who knows more info like unit, location, date?

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Mike Cecil 02-07-24 04:13

8cwt trailer
 
Hanno,

Not 10cwt - 8cwt: a Trailer, 8cwt, GS (Aust) No.3 to be precise.

You need Keith and my book on Aust jeeps and jeep trailers! :thup2:

The CMP is a Chev C15A 15 cwt Battery Staff vehicle with an Australian Sunshine cab and No.2 all-steel body with valise lockers.

Mike

Hanno Spoelstra 02-07-24 09:22

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Originally Posted by Mike Cecil (Post 296567)
Not 10cwt - 8cwt: a Trailer, 8cwt, GS (Aust) No.3 to be precise.

You need Keith and my book on Aust jeeps and jeep trailers! :thup2:

The CMP is a Chev C15A 15 cwt Battery Staff vehicle with an Australian Sunshine cab and No.2 all-steel body with valise lockers.

Hi Mike, thanks I've learned that over the years since posting it. Your book on Australian Jeeps is a gem no doubt, but what I really need is Keith and your book on CMPs :)

Hanno Spoelstra 02-07-24 10:04

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Another C15TA pulling a trailer, a Canadian 10-cwt one this time. It's crossing the Berlage bridge entering Amsterdam on 8 May 1945, shortly after the German Army surrendered.

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Source: https://archief.amsterdam/beeldbank/...b-e0707b34daed


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