CMP chassis for what?
 

Hi all,

An interesting picture surfaced in December issue of "Vintage Roadscene:"

The caption isn't of much help, it says: "A wartime ‘CMP’-pattern Ford, which looks to have been fitted with a framework for the fitting of a gun, searchlight or other military equipment."

Is it known what exactly this equipment was?

TIA.

(N.B. It is in the article on Edbro Tippers Ltd, if this will help)

https://i.postimg.cc/VkgKtbBw/CMP.jpg

Nice, that is a Truck, 15-cwt, 4x2, A.A., a.k.a. as "Ford Polsten".

They should have done some research (even a simple google search) before printing such a vague caption.

Hanno

Research
 

Research, Google searches, come on, what are those!

The research
 

Google search = a start!

Wiked-pedia = a poor start!

Credible reference books = a good start!

Archival files/primary sources = the best! :thup2:

(incoming! Duck & cover ...) :giveup

Nice pic.

Mike

Thanks, Hanno!
Now it was easier, after some quick research it turned out the body is 2L1. Regretfully it isn't mentioned in the article what Edward Brothers of Bolton has to do with this body.

Ilian, Edward Brothers may have been one of the contractors which built and/or fitted the body. I know Dennis Motors Ltd did a umber of these conversions, not only C15 but also Bedford MW.

Hanno

Knowing where to look
 

A good internet search using google will yield usefull info - not in the last place because you'll end up here on MLU Forum! :D

I say, good repartee!
 

Ha ha ... touche, Mr Hanno!

Mike

Research
 

This may help, all I say is use it wisely.

Attachment 110312

:thup: Good one Mike!

BTW, I agree on your point quoted below. I love the fact that so much material has been put online in the past years: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=30639

The benefits of the web & the high cost of research
 

Yes, Hanno, it is one of the benefits of the web that museums and archival institutions have scanned and made available so much primary source material. For which I am very grateful, of course. :salute:

I can sit at my desk in our nice comfy home in Colbert WA USA, and quickly and easily look at a vehicle ARN in the original Australian Army vehicle register on the AWM site in Canberra, Australia, or search through the personnel dossier of an Australian who served in the First World War on the National Archives of Australia website or look at scanned documents on a host of other topics in a variety of other places.

There are also many non-government/private sites such as REMLR, MLU and many others that provide a wealth of scanned documents put up by individual members.

Still, there is a lot more that is not scanned and available in an on-line search, so researching any particular topic in depth usually takes time at a desk somewhere, leafing through original documents. And with the cost of obtaining files that are not yet digitised, it is sometimes cheaper in the long run to travel to the location than to order on-line, particularly for research projects involving large numbers of files. Looking at, say, 500 files at an average cost of $60AUD per file for a copy/digitized from the National Archives = $30,000! Copy rates from the UK and NZ archives are no better.

Cheaper/more cost-effective to travel there and go through the files on-site, and enjoy the 'holiday'! :thup2:

We are well away from this thread's Polsten mounts on 15 cwt trucks, but it is an interesting diversion nevertheless.

Mike

Thanks Ilian, yet another picture, I have never seen of the F15 AA, I'll check the census No to see if it one of the official pictures from the Imperial War Museum.
What is a bit odd, is that all of the pictures I have of the AA mount, all seem to be on F 15 vehicles, so, does this mean that the C15 and the 15 cwt Bedford mounts, were all out defending the empire ?, rather than posing for pictures ?

Seriously a great picture, which actually helps me in the reconstruction of my C15 AA

Best regards
Keith

Perhaps they simply wanted the extra horsepower and reliability of the mighty Ford powertrain.

The KL Welding lorries were also only on Ford vehicles, and for good reason...they were heavy.

Without getting into the endless (and pointless) Ford/Chevrolet debate, I suggest that the KL welders were built on Ford Chassis to have a common engine for the chassis and welder.

Frost and Wood, an agricultural implement maker in Smith Falls, Ontario made these bodies, as well as #27 Artillery Trailers and thousands of 36 Grenade bodies