Singapore Volunteer Corps MCC
 

Any idea which model this '36 Morris-Commercial is please? I wonder if it survived to be captured?

'36 Irish MCC truck
 

I have photos of two version sof these and would be interested to know the model as well! Looks like a 30-cwt at least.

nice picture
 

David, do you have more info on the Singapore Volunteers?

Kind regards,
NUyt

SVC
 

http://www.regiments.org/regiments/e...il/inf/svc.htm

A quick search suggests that the Singapore Volunteer Corps was the 1st and 2nd Battalions of the Straits Settlements Volunteer Corps, Singapore Fortress under Malaya Command HQ Singapore. This is the only photo I have from the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust, but I wonder if there any in this IWM collection:

http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/dbt...&BG=0&FG=0&QS=

I also found this interesting photo

http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/med.../HU_002787.jpg

thanks, but, eh
 

I wasn't clear enough and meant vehicle pics....!

Cheers,
Nuyt

Re: '36 Irish MCC truck
 

David,

This looks to be a MCC Leader, they were initially in 3 and 3.5 tons, then later a 4 tonner. I would say the Irish flatbed shown, is a 3 tonner,...at least.

Richard

MCC Leader
 

That's what I suspected Richard: here are details of Leaders that I have from the WD Trials in 1936:

So, '10' = 10-feet wheelbase and '14' 14-feet, and '80' = 80 cwt, or 4-tonner, but for military purposes with 4.75 ton gvw it was a 2-tonner. However I have just found out that in the 1937 Trials, the 2-ton Leader was also capable of carrying a 3-ton load.

Also:

I assume that they had a 11-feet wheelbase, and of course were rated at 30-cwt or 1.5 tons.

Care to suggest that the Singapore truck is a C.S.14/80 and the Irish one a C.S.10/80 as with twin rear wheels it must be a 2-tonner as suggested? The Singapore truck looks as though it has a different front end, and extended rear overhang to the 'civvy' truck.

In the 1937/8 Trials apart from the Leader and a C.S. 11/30 there was also a C.W.S. 13/60 which was apparently a Leader with 'considerably more power'...it gets very confusing all these MCC model numbers!

This is presumably a C.S. 13/60 armoured version? The load carrier per se would I assume have the same front end, a la C.S.9, and the same engine as the armoured version. Rating 60-cwt/3-tons?

http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/med...e/H_000542.jpg

Re: MCC Leader
 

David,

The military generally under rated the carrying capacity of its lorries, this was to ensure that the truck could negotiate both roads and cross country with max. payload. Thus.....a civvy 3 tonner could have a War Office rating of 2 tons. From my information, I would say the Irish truck is at least 3 ton payload. The Singapore truck although it has a long body is probably only rated at 3 ton for military use.

Richard

Wheelbases
 

Thanks Richard..I am very grateful. Would you hazzard a guess at wheelbase lengths please in order to pin down which model they are?

Re: Wheelbases
 

David,

As a rough guess, the Irish Leader is approx 10'6"wb and the Singapore truck around 13'. Also note that the Singapore truck has a different cab, ie front axle mounted further forward, possibly longer bonnet meaning engine not part in cab as Leader, and it also has flowing mudguards.

Richard

MCC truck
 

This MCC truck appeared at a rally here last year . Its from mid 30's ? a C type ? It is unrestored , presented as found . It has a 6 cyl motor similar to the CS8 .

Mike

Sussex ?
 

Sussex.....? at the same rally

Leyland
 

LEYLAND < WHAT YEAR?

CCC
 

Fordson 7V with County Commercial Cars Sussex conversion? Any chance ex-military? Yes there were British conversions acquired by the Ministry of Supply.

Re: Re: Wheelbases
 

David,

Had a rethink and reckon that 10'6" is a little short for the Irish Leader, more like 13' which could make the other one a bit longer?

Richard