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cletrac (RIP) 13-02-10 08:30

Western Desert images
 
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I was browsing Google Life images of the western desert and got quite a variety of interesting shots of vehicles. Some of them I don't have any idea what they are.

cletrac (RIP) 13-02-10 08:38

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There weren't any captions other than War in the Western Desert. I cropped out a lot of sky and sand then changed to greyscale and resized them for the forum.

cletrac (RIP) 13-02-10 08:54

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The pictures with all the clutter are quite interesting. Those boats seem to be out of place in that landscape!

Keith Webb 13-02-10 09:33

Interesting
 
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Originally Posted by cletrac (Post 126195)
I was browsing Google Life images of the western desert and got quite a variety of interesting shots of vehicles. Some of them I don't have any idea what they are.

Some of these are good candidates for the in the background thread.

First pic is a C60L, third I can see a F15 fourth a cab 12 C60L as is the last one which looks to have flat tyres and been made into some sort of semi-permanent office.

zemsi 13-02-10 09:43

.. wonderful images, there are even more if you search for "Western Desert"

Greetings
Chris

Kuno 13-02-10 10:14

Wow! These are great & fairly unusual pics. Made my day!!!

Lynn Eades 13-02-10 10:22

David
 
Second pic, with spare wheel, and no tyre, is a I/2 ton Dodge ambulance. the water cart is a MW bedford, as is the one beside it, facing the other way. It is followed by a heavy Humber. The tyres ,springs, gen. sets, body parts etc. tell stories. Lots of broken springs, tyres either shot up, or failing due to heat/or cracking. Lots of tread on most. Keith, I think that truck with the flat tyres, is shown again later, and is the blacksmiths wagon. The tyres are buried, rather than flat. Some days were worse than others, in the desert (the wind blew on some days)

gordon 13-02-10 11:29

Dodge ambulance
 
The only really notable point for me about the Dodge ambulance is that the Red Cross markings have been re-done much larger than 'factory' for air recognition.

2nd AIF 13-02-10 11:39

Great pics, thanks for sharing

cletrac (RIP) 13-02-10 15:27

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Here's another round of pics.

cletrac (RIP) 13-02-10 15:35

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Some more.

cletrac (RIP) 13-02-10 15:41

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What's the vehicle in this first pic?

zemsi 13-02-10 15:53

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Originally Posted by cletrac (Post 126226)
What's the vehicle in this first pic?

I'd guess a South African Marmon Herrington?

Chris

Hanno Spoelstra 13-02-10 15:58

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Originally Posted by zemsi (Post 126200)
.. wonderful images, there are even more if you search for "Western Desert"

. . . or for Bob Landry.

cletrac (RIP) 13-02-10 21:08

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These pics come in two series; War in the Western Desert and Western Desert after Axis Retreat. Each series has over 200 pics and Google will only show 200. To access the others a person might have to search by year also. There aren't any captions to search for key words.

Hanno Spoelstra 14-02-10 12:20

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David,

The third pic in the last series you posted is interesting as it shows a F15 with canvas-covered square roof hatch, a typical North African theatre modification. But pictures of CMPs with this type of hatch are few and far between.

Hanno

Lynn Eades 14-02-10 20:33

Interesting pic
 
It also appears to have recently rained. How common was that?

cletrac (RIP) 14-02-10 20:47

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That canvas hatch is interesting. I guess you wouldn't have to worry about rain getting in in the desert!

Kuno 14-02-10 20:49

Mud? Very common in wintertime in Libya!!!

cletrac (RIP) 15-02-10 03:28

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One thing I notice on these images is the paint jobs on the vehicles. The majority of them are plain desert sand with the rest being caunter or MTP46 camo schemes.

cletrac (RIP) 15-02-10 03:40

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There's something else I noticed. Several vehicles either have the sloping windshields painted or have canvas covers with vision holes and the side windows or vertical windshields don't have anything. This is obviously to try to avoid detection by airplanes. Here we have the real reason for the sloping ahead windshields on 13 cabs!

Kuno 15-02-10 06:07

From left to right:

Libya / Wadi Ku'uf
Egypt / Cairo (most probably)
Libya / Derna
Egypt / Great Sandsea (SDF or LRDG Truck)

Howard 15-02-10 07:38

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 126276)
The third pic in the last series you posted is interesting as it shows a F15 with canvas-covered square roof hatch, a typical North African theatre modification. But pictures of CMPs with this type of hatch are few and far between.

Also interesting, this is a 12 cab, but with 11 cab tow hooks, the same as mine. My truck also has 11 cab engine covers (a recent discovery!)

Keith Webb 15-02-10 21:09

Cab 11/12
 
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Originally Posted by Howard (Post 126336)
Also interesting, this is a 12 cab, but with 11 cab tow hooks, the same as mine. My truck also has 11 cab engine covers (a recent discovery!)

I once bought a cab from a F60L cab 12, the chassis of which was being made into a forklift, and it had the early type towing eyes in the bumper mounts but had normal cab 12 engine covers.

Mike Kelly 17-02-10 00:44

KIWI Morris CS8
 
The chap standing on the bonnet of the CS8 Morris with field glases would likely be a Kiwi . The Kiwi fern leaf tac logo is seen on the near side guard. The same pic is in the Alexander Turnbull collection in NZ.

Mike

cletrac (RIP) 17-02-10 03:34

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Here's some more. It's interesting to note the commercial pickup box in the first pic.

cletrac (RIP) 17-02-10 03:42

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Would that be an Indian pattern box in the first two pix?

cletrac (RIP) 17-02-10 03:51

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More to come.

Hanno Spoelstra 20-12-15 21:12

Also see Western Desert After Axis Retreat - 1942 on FB; and also EGYPTE - DESERT OCCIDENTAL - 1942.

H.

Hanno Spoelstra 09-06-16 21:58

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A couple more from Life, may have been posted before:

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And one from AWM:

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"ID number 014125
Maker Hurley, James Francis (Frank)
Place made North Africa: Western Desert
Date made 20 January 1943
Description Westward Ho 1 streams of Australian Army transport vehicles hurrying in the wake of Rommel's retreating army in the Western Desert."


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