Thanks for all that Phil.

I think, like many things, the black-out regulatons were a disorganised shambles throughout the war and the reasons for subjecting vehicles to such dangerous and inconvenient restrictions were illconceived.

I can understand restricted TOTAL blackout on vehicles positioning troops, guns etc for night attacks or say crossing areas under the direct field of fire of the enemy but convoys in rear areas???? The oft quoted protection from aircraft is a myth. During WW2 low level strafing on anything other than a full moonlit night (or the light of a burning city) was a quick way to a pilot's grave. Of course that has changed now and trucks may as well drive with spotlights given the night vision capability of modern aircraft.

I am sure the Red Ball Express and similar operations dis not crawl along blacked out. Blackout operations seem to be a particular fetish of the British as there appears to be much more about this in Commonwealth information and photos than American.

Is that a Cab 11/12 CMP following the M3A1 Scout Car?

Source: Eindhoven liberated

It looks like it and with no roof hatch it would likely be a Cab 11. Judging by the height of the canvas top on the box it would have to be a 15 cwt too.

Thanks, my thoughts too!

H.

Winschoten, The Netherlands.

source: "De Canadezen in Nederland 44-45", written by David Kaufman and Michiel Horn.

The Hague, Holland, 1945

Source: www.niod.nl

http://195.169.62.3/beeldbankcgi/frs...g?frskey=73406

Same pic, now featured on the beeldbankwo2.nl:
Are these really Princess Irene Brigade vehicles?

H.

CGT Cab 12 at Leeuwarden, 15 April 1945.

Source: http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl/

http://www.archivesnormandie39-45.or...MD/p002211.jpg

source: www.archivesnormandie39-45.org

Canadians and K51s off to Europe
 

Here's a rare shot of a Canadian contingent with their K 51s loaded onto a ship bound for England, I assume.

Not quite
 

Those are similar sized trucks, but lighter.

No dual rear wheels, no extended fenders, no side boxes for radio gear, ordinary half to one ton chevrolet or even Dodge I think. They don't look like they are packed for international shipment either - looks more like a river or channel crossing rather than trans-Atlantic.

1/5th Bn. The Queens Royal Regiment liberating Ghent (Belgium).

Looks like a Chevrolet Cab 12 3-tonner.

Source: http://www.desertrats.org.btinternet...artefacts2.htm

Here´s a slightly larger version of this picture from www.beeldbankwo2.nl:

Found on this forum, while searching for something else. Picture was taken in Rotterdam.

H.

Just see the movies and find them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFi_140U_Go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMJ84CtEXbw

Groetn

Hendrik

Early CMPs
 

Seeing early CMPs being used with other vehicles makes me wonder how vehicles were allocated in the British and Commonwealth Armies. Did units just get allocated he first 15 cwt or 3 tonner that was available from the vehicle park or was there any planning around putting common types together to make spares easier allocate? Photos seem to show a mix of types, so any typical unit might have a Ford WOT and a CMP 15 cwt and as for the RASC it seems many photos show a mix of CMPs and UK built types like the Bedford OY, which in todays world seems odd.

Is it C15 cab 12 tanker ?

To me it looks like an 8cwt Cab12. Going by the brush guard, it seems to be a Ford F8.
Interesting picture! Is that Jeep moving a 15cwt water trailer???

Alex

Poor quality , it is photo from magazine "Parada" , polish version of "Parade" , nr 13 June 25th 1944, shows polish vehicles in May 1944 discharge ground close to Cassino , can't make photo any bigger.

Jacek, thanks. Lovely to see an F8 cab12 still in use in may 1944!

Jacek, Alex, I moved your postings from In the background to here. Italy is not NW Europe, but Europe anyway, and I think it fits better in this thread with other ealry CMPs in use later on during WW2.

Hanno

Here is a lovely C15A, cab 12, Liberation of Delft, 1945.

Source: http://www.fotoleren.nl

Liberation parade in Utrecht 1945 (presumably june 7, 1945??)

C15A Cab12 Wireless

source: http://www.hetutrechtsarchief.nl

At least three Monkey face FATs in Utrecht 1945...

(don't want to draw any conclusions, but all these seem to be Chevrolet.... :D)

source: http://www.hetutrechtsarchief.nl

Liberation of Zandvoort...May 1945.

Slides from a youtube clip this time!

Alex

source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7l8rcTiou4

Liberation of Zwolle, April 14th 1945

Cab12 C15A. I have attached 5 pics, but there are a few more in the archive. I think I see at least two different cab 12 C15A's, judging from the difference in white paint on the bumper.

source: http://beeldmateriaal.historischcentrumoverijssel.nl

Liberation of Amsterdam, May 1945

I can only hope these people are holding on!

C15A cab 12

source: http://beeldbank.amsterdam.nl/

My old hometown....Haarlem.
Picture taken on the Zijlvest in Haarlem, May 8th 1945.

Solid mirror arm.....cab 11? or early cab 12? I think it might be the same one as filmed in Zandvoort.....no doors, slight dent in the side of the roof and light coloured tarp.

source: Spaarnestad archive. http://www.gahetna.nl/collectie/afbeeldingen

Here is another, at 5.11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgiqBwVWcKk

Groetn

Hendrik :thup2:

Question for the experts....
 

Why do we see so many cab 12 in 1945 during the liberation of Holland???

Cab 12 had literally been replaced by cab 13 which were available in great quantity. In fact some would say the cab 12 was more or less obsolete when the cab 13 became plentiful.

I can understand the specialized CGT/FGT and special radio trucks but to see many cab 12 GS lorry still being used surprises me. They did have to come from the central depot in England which were full of cab 13 by late 1944.....why ferry over an obsolete GS to the front lines.

Anybody has an opinion????

Curious.

Bob C