My 1/6th MkII Carrier a WIP
 

I've always wanted a MkII Carrier in 1/6th scale and since a pre-built one is so expensive I decided I would build one from scratch. I scaled up the tree layout on the 1/35 Tamyia MkII Carrier plans and then recalculated for 1/6th. I made bristalboard templates as I went along so I can build another one day. Here are some pics of the basic bare hull with a couple of the 1st Hussars checking it out. Comments welcomed
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...rier/uc-01.jpg
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will it be radio controlled or static ? i have the same 1/16 panzer 3 as you (saw the box in the backround......my son has he 1/16th tiger both in Kursk winter camo :)

if the quality of the Hussars is anything to go bye, the finished article will be superb.

I'm trying to find something close to the track on a carrier in 1/16th to use on my carrier. I think the pzr3 track is too narrow, The tiger1 track is about the right width but the tread pattern is wrong so I may have to comprimise on that. RC woud be nice I have a spare set of gearboxes for the HL tanks and electronics. The carrier so far is very light so that might work out ok

What is the width of the track on a MkII carrier? I have been told it is 10"

iam probably wrong, but without checking my manual the mk1 and mk2 track are the same ? and off the top of my head they are 9.5 " wide with a pitch of arund 1.75" if i recal correctly.


Rich

I just measured my MK2 and you are correct at 9.5"

Ron

So then That would work out to about 1.2" in 1/6th scale, I guess a 1" track would not look too out of scale for the carrier... Thank you... Harold

1/6 of 9.5 is 1.58333 so 1" is only 2/3 of what you want it would look a little small. :coffee

Yep I agree with Robert on that. 1.6" is about what you are looking for. bummer!

Ron

My next choice would have to be the HL tiger1 track which measures 1.75 which would be wider. But if I clip off the little tab on the one side it would come out at 1.625" so .025" over would probably be close enough.
Here is a scan of the HL 1/16th scale tiger1 track un-altered
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...gertrack-1.jpg
Here is a pic of the proposed trimming of the track. The first 3 white lines is one option the second 3 lines is another option.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...gertrack-2.jpg
What do you think? It's about as close as I'm going to get

how are you going to replicate the destinctive Horstman type suspension / road wheel and bogey setup ? i reckon the track will look ok you could spray them black (get the metal ones though) and then lightly sand the tread bars so the metal comes through, depending on how yours turns out i might have a go. the link pattern on the HL Panzer 3 is very close but will be too narrow for your scale.

also what else would be cool would be to make the hull out of metal :)

A chap named Johkaz on another forum posted these links. His quote.....

This does look very close to the carrier track pictures here.

http://johkaz.byethost16.com/Carrier/bren_gun1.jpg

http://johkaz.byethost16.com/Carrier/bren_gun9.jpg

http://johkaz.byethost16.com/Carrier/bren_gun36.jpg

none of those links work matey

I guess after I accknowleged I saw the pics he removed the so here they are now in my photobucket
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18.../bren_gun1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18.../bren_gun9.jpg
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That Carrier is a MK3 and was used for some experimental purpose. It's in the Tank museum at Bovington.

Ron

Update:
Well the work continues. Here a few of the Hasty-P's check out the progress on their new carrier. I have added the upper sides of the gunner's shield, added the rear fenders, added the rear lower backplate. I've also constructed the engine and rad cover, but still has further work to go on that. The men of the Hasty-P's are pleased with the work on their new carrier and will be letting RSM Duffy(GOD) know. Here are the pics:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...rier/uc-07.jpg
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Update:
After looking for spare rc Stuart roadwheels and finding none I figured the next best thing was to make my own. So I took the un-used spare road wheel that I didn't use on my Stuart and modified it for use on my carrier. I know the carriers use a 6 spoked wheel but for now 5 spoked wheels will do. I made a silicone mold of the modified road whell and and did a test pour of the road wheel useing polyester resin. I'm pleased with the results. Here is a pic of the mold, the original wheel, and a 1st pour from the mold. I inserted sections of straightened out paper clips in each of the spokes before the resin cured.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...rier/uc-12.jpg

very good matey, i was looking at the section on the HL panzer /stug track and it looks very very close to the carrier, you would have to change your scale though.

Well my carrier has to be 1/6th so the pzr3 track is out as it would be way too narrow so the 1/16th tiger1 track will have to do. I'm still debateing whether to use the 5 spoked wheels or re-work the master to a 6 spoked wheel. The only other 1/6th carrier being sold has the same 5 spoked wheels and it is a "one-of" item

that would take some doing, to be honest at a glance they look fine, i certainly did not count the spokes. are you going to run metal tracks ? and how do you propse to create the sprockets and diff setup ? suppose the rear plate hides it so you could use two motors,, ?



Rich

Harold use search and tipe in "five spoke road heels" and you will find threads showing five spoke wheels on carriers. :cheers:

Well I decided to make a master for the 6 spoked road wheels and here it is. It goes under rubber tonight
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...rier/uc-13.jpg

Wouldn't you know.....
Never fails.... after makeing and molding the new 6 spoke road wheel, I get informed from the guys with the real carriers that carriers came with both 5 and 6 spoke road wheels, some even with both 5 and 6 spoked wheels on the same carrier.... go figure!!!!

Update:
Here's a pic of the new mold of the 6 spoked roadwheel and the first pour. Next will to decide whether to use the already poured 5 spoked ones or the new 6 spoked ones.... decisions decisions
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...rier/uc-14.jpg

wheels
 

No problems mix them up, more realistic give the knockers some thing to find and whinge about.

Update:
I had an old New Bright Abrams Tank here that I had gutted and thought I could possibly make the drive system work in the carrier. The carrier is very light so the gearbox should have no problems driving the carrier. I dissassembled the gearbox and divided it down the center into 2 separate gearboxes, and I reworked the sprokets into something I can attach the carrier sprokets to. Here are pics of the gearboxes.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...rier/uc-15.jpg
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Decision:
Well after numerous attempts to make a 3" sprocket to match the track I have, I have come to the point where I have to decide which way to go...
1. Use the sprocket that matches the track but is a bit small in diameter(2 1/4") if I want it RC
2. Make a track and a sprocket non-functional non-RC
If I use the tiger1 sprocket which 3/4" smaller in diameter it may not look right because of the diameter, but I can have the carrier RC.
Your suggestions would be appreciated.... Thanks Harold

right order the metal hl tiger sprockets and cut the outer ring off it make the correct shaped boss as per the carrier, bond / pin the ring onto the boss and voila.

if the diameter is not correct then you will struggle as the pitch of the teeth will be matched to the segments on the track, and a bit of jiggery pokery will be needed, you may end up having to cast your own rings for it. if push comes to shove, use the tiger rings make a center for them and use full length sand guards on the carrier ;)

Rich

Update:
Well there's an old saying that goes "If at first you don't succeed try try again", well that's what I did and finally wound up with a workable pair of rear drive sprockets for my carrier. I made a circle of track the diameter the size I needed then inserted styrene discs inside the circle and added sections of styrene where each tooth should be and well will let the pics tell the rest. Now I have the base made for detailing the rear drive sprockets
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...rier/uc-18.jpg
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