Sources for CMP wiring looms
 

As this subject has come up many times on this forum, and I'm trying to sort out some of the wiring on my F15A, I've searched both the old & new forums for sources. I'll stick this thread to the top of the Restoration Forum for easy reference.
If anyone has to add anything (contacts, sources, experiences with suppliers etc.), please stick them in this thread.

some links
 

Here are link to a number of related threads:

UK suppliers
- Wiring help: link to http://www.autosparks.co.uk/ and http://www.thewiringharness.co.uk/

AUS suppliers
- Wiring help: link to http://www.vinwire.com.au

US suppliers
- Wiring rehab: link to http://www.vintagewiringofmaine.com/
- C-15 Wiring harness topic (old forum): reference to Harness Unlimited, British Wiring (also in the UK) and Precision Wiring

Is this of any help?

Cheers,
Hanno

Re: some links
 

Hanno,

I have just had a harness made by Auto Sparks, for a Humber staff car. An excellent job and service. They sent it to me without the braiding to check against the vehicle and for any additions, I then returned it for final braiding. All cables are modern pvc with the original pattern braiding and all the correct colours as in the wiring chart. Cables of all colours are available separately. A few years ago they made one for a Bedford MW and it fitted perfectly.
I do not know if the Canadian / US vehicles use the same colour codes, ours are to a British Standard, each colour denotes a particular circuit, irrespective of make of vehicle.

Richard

Vintage Wiring Harness (Aust)
 

I can certainly recomend Vinwire. I have had 3 harnesses made by them, 2 Ford and 1 Chev. All excellent quality and everything in the right place/length. Full instructions and diagrams included. The wire colours/traces are the same as original (well, as described in MB-F1) and are all numbered for easy installation. The numbers can be removed after installation or left in place. Very easy to talk to, and will customise for modifications like turn signals, trailer connections, radios, cigarette lighters.....................

Should also mention another source for WW2 vehicle wiring needs, http://www.mvspares.com/

Autosparks
 

Brad,

I have used Autosparks several times for British vehicle harnesses and they have had patterns already, from which to work from. I know someone who has just had one made by them, for a Ford FGT, but he did supply a pattern. There is no way they can make one without a pattern. What they can do I believe, is to braid your own harness, in other words, you make it and mark where you want it braided together. They can supply all the different coloured cables, see their website.

Richard

I can vouch for Vinwire, they made a complete harness for my one ton Model T truck.

Was the first time for them at that stage, they had built them for the car before. I did not have a sample, but they knew of a truck, and went out and measured it all up, at no extra charge.

I have found out the hard way, a potentual supplier of either parts, or rebuild work, if he shows no interest to walk away. When I did the truck I ran into many old timers, who loved the work, and did a good job, at a most favourable price.

My advice, NO INTEREST _ NO WORK.

Regards
Col Tigwell
Downunder

I was just looking at the Vinwire site and was wondering if the CV455M harness is the correct one for a C15A late pattern13 Cab

The description given is "15CWT & MAPLE LEAF MAIN O.E 5284492 CANADA"

It looks like they have the best price for an off the shelf item.

Brad

Thats great news on the UCarrier Mk1 loom. This is somthing I woudl definatley be interested in

I queried the Australian place, and their reply is that the listed harness for Chevrolet Blitz Mk II is correct for Cab 13 - anyone had dealings with the Ozx place, and would their Chev Blitz harness be correct for HUP with late U.S.-style guage panel?

sources for wiring looms
 

Hi could any one with an old loom from a 12 cab either sell or loan it me, to use as a pattern to have a new one made. Cheers Dick

New wiring harness
 

My new wiring harness arrived from Vinwire in Oz today. Haven't checked it out fully yet, but it looks top quality. And Paul was really helpful too. :thup2:

Note this is for a Chev 12 cab Quad, but should be ok to use with my 11 cab C15 (same wheelbase) with minor mods.

Time to check out the 11 cab vs. 12 cab wiring diagrams. :coffee If I notice any problems, I'll post them here.

Owen.

Hello all, I have installed a new wiring loom from Vinwire on my C60S 1942 cab 13 it was correct in all detail. They will add an indicator circuit in if you wish.
I have found that they are very busy and a wait of up to eight weeks is not uncommon.I have another harness for the C15 on back order,
I have not any connection to the company.
Robert

Supplier update
 

The latter company has changed ownership, their website is now https://thewiringharnesscompany.co.uk/. No reference to CMP or any Canadian vehicles can be found on their website.

Autosparks lists three options for "Ford Canadian" without any helpful discription. They do not list a Harness Set for Chevrolet.

Seems Vinwire in Australia is the go-to place for CMP wiring harnesses!

Highly recommend VinWire from Australia. I posted a number of pictures of the harness install in my C15A-Wire 3 thread.

I saw those, Jordan - looks very good. I have requested a quote for a harness for my F15A.

Vinwire update on online pricelist
 

I got an update from Vinwire:

The price for the 1942-45 F15A wiring harness went up from to advertised price of A$650 (date accessed 21-apr-2024) to A$900 excl. GST ( :eek: ) Add postage ($85-$100) plus import duties and I would have a landed cost of roughly EUR 775.

I going to consider some other options too... :coffee

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Loom comments.......
 

It seems the particular issue with wiring "looms" it the loomed cotton cover that wraps the bundle of wires....... the deivce if I am correct is a circular loom much similar but smaller scale to a common stocking loom from the 1940s.......

Now when Phil Waterman made a limited very high quality copy he found a Eastern USA manufacturer that did the looming part (probably marine /boat related) for the bundles of wires that Phil sent them...... if that simple but complex step to making a wiring "loom" can be sourced in North America...... it seems to me that the wiring, connectors, and diagrams are readily available....... given an old dried up complete Chev CMP ( which we have) then two sheet of plywood painted white with a bunch of nails and you can reproduce the wiring bundle.....but if you have to ship it to a "Loomer" and pay the labor ++ shipping both ways than no wonder the price is going up.....

Now where can we find in NA or the UK a manufacturer willing to do small order of custom looming????? buying that old equipment in working condition is probably out of the question.....

You can buy copper tinned wire looming tubes by the roll or the yard flat as a ribbon and various width....... is a ready made flat ribbon tube similarly available...... same is available in synthetic nylon fibers as a scuff protector.....

Common guys lets overload Google search engine

Found tons of it....... in China......Ebay
 

Worth exploring as an alternative for DIY......

They have cotton braided....... also synthetic shrink braided.....

Have yet to find a cotton black with one yellow tracer.........

it is called braided sleeving tube.........

prices are reasonable and I have had material shipped to my home very fast no custom hassle........ but would not buy 100 meters without a small sample.....

....back to looking......

Bob,
If you are feeling brave, look at the machines made in the UK by https://www.cobrabraids.com/. You could set up in a new career... providing harness braiding services in either cotton or wire to the CMP community.
You can download a data sheet from their Australian distributor's website at https://airbout.com.au/wp-content/up...-P1-and-P2.pdf
As you point out, most things (or their knock-offs) can be bought in China...

COTS vs DIY
 

The focus of this thread is to exchange info about wiring harnesses available off the shelf.

For DIY wiring see threads like Snake’s Alive: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=23227