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Adame 05-01-09 01:34

Canadian WW2 Carrier Markings (Lorne Scots)
 
Hi Guys

I want to find the proper WW2 Markings for a Carrier attached to the Lorne Scots Regt, I am not sure of the colours etc? Any help would be apppricated.
I have looked on line but can't find anything.

Adame :no4:

Mark W. Tonner 05-01-09 15:18

Re: Lorne Scots carrier markings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adame (Post 107662)
Hi Guys

I want to find the proper WW2 Markings for a Carrier attached to the Lorne Scots Regt, I am not sure of the colours etc? Any help would be apppricated.
I have looked on line but can't find anything.

Adame :no4:


Hi Adame;

The first thing you would have to do is to find out if in fact the ‘Lorne Scots’ actually had an entitlement to ‘carriers’. The Lorne Scots never fought as an infantry ‘Rifle’ battalion throughout the period of the Second World War, instead they were dispersed throughout the army overseas in Company (Protective Company for Corps HQ and Defence Company for Army HQ) and Platoon (Defence & Employment Platoon for Brigade HQ) strength and also for a time as ‘divisional employment platoons’.

The only sub-unit of the Lorne Scots that may have had an entitlement to carriers would have been the ‘Protective Company’ for Corps HQ (27 August 1940 to 31 December 1945) and the ‘Army Headquarters Defence Company’ for First Canadian Army HQ (1 April 1942 to 12 April 1944).

Cheers

Adame 05-01-09 16:33

My understanding is that they did.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark W. Tonner (Post 107686)
Hi Adame;

The first thing you would have to do is to find out if in fact the ‘Lorne Scots’ actually had an entitlement to ‘carriers’. The Lorne Scots never fought as an infantry ‘Rifle’ battalion throughout the period of the Second World War, instead they were dispersed throughout the army overseas in Company (Protective Company for Corps HQ and Defence Company for Army HQ) and Platoon (Defence & Employment Platoon for Brigade HQ) strength and also for a time as ‘divisional employment platoons’.

The only sub-unit of the Lorne Scots that may have had an entitlement to carriers would have been the ‘Protective Company’ for Corps HQ (27 August 1940 to 31 December 1945) and the ‘Army Headquarters Defence Company’ for First Canadian Army HQ (1 April 1942 to 12 April 1944).

Cheers

I have seen a picture of one but I can't see any markings on it.

Mark W. Tonner 05-01-09 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adame (Post 107687)
I have seen a picture of one but I can't see any markings on it.

Hi Adame;

Do you know when the picture was taken and could you post this picture here?

Cheers

Adame 05-01-09 18:00

It appeas to be a parade in Oakville.
 
I wll try to find the picture. I originally found it on the web.

But it is not a close up shot that can easily be identified.

Adam :no4:

Mark W. Tonner 05-01-09 18:38

Re: "It appears to be a parade in Oakville"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adame (Post 107689)
I wll try to find the picture. I originally found it on the web.

But it is not a close up shot that can easily be identified.

Adam :no4:

If the picture is a wartime picture (1939-1945) and was taken at Oakville, Ontario,

“B” Company of the: -

The Lorne Scots (Peel, Dufferin and Halton Regiment) - Non-Permanent Active Militia (from 1 Sep 39 to 7 Nov 40)

1st (Reserve) Battalion, The Lorne Scots (Peel, Dufferin and Halton Regiment) - The Canadian Army (Reserve) (from 7 Nov 40 to 6 Feb 41)

2nd (Reserve) Battalion, The Lorne Scots (Peel, Dufferin and Halton Regiment) - The Canadian Army (Reserve) (from 6 Feb 41 to 1 Apr 46)

was localized at Oakville and the carrier would not carry an Arm of Service or Formation marking, if indeed it were a ‘Lorne Scots’ carrier.

Cheers

John McGillivray 06-01-09 01:06

On the Trux site there is detailed info about the make up of British Army Units in 21st Army Group. I took a quick look and I did not see any Carriers in the Defence units at the division, Corps or Army HQs.

http://truxmodels.co.uk/index.html

Mark W. Tonner 06-01-09 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by John McGillivray (Post 107717)
On the Trux site there is detailed info about the make up of British Army Units in 21st Army Group. I took a quick look and I did not see any Carriers in the Defence units at the division, Corps or Army HQs.

http://truxmodels.co.uk/index.html

Nor was there any entitlement in Army/Corps/Brigade Headquarters protection/defence units of the Canadian Army.

Mark W. Tonner 07-01-09 00:18

Re: carriers in ‘Defence’ units of the Canadian Army
 
Just a note regarding the use of carriers in 'Defence' units of the Canadian Army.

Within Pacific Command and Atlantic Command during the period of approximately 15 April 1942 to 1 September 1944, the following ‘Defence’ units of the Canadian Army had an entitlement to carriers:

Aerodrome Defence Platoons:

- Aerodrome Defence Platoons were carrier equipped (various configurations)

1st Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
2nd Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
3rd Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
4th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
5th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
6th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
7th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
8th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
9th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
10th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
11th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
12th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 15 Apr 42 to 23 Nov 42
13th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 1 Jul 42 to 23 Nov 42
14th Aerodrome Defence Platoon - 1 Jul 42 to 23 Nov 42


Aerodrome Defence Companies:

- the No. 1 Platoon of each Aerodrome Defence Company was carrier equipped (various configurations)

1st Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 31 Oct 43
2nd Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 31 Oct 43
3rd Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 31 Oct 43
4th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 31 Oct 43
5th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
6th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
7th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
8th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
9th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
10th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
11th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
12th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
13th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
14th Aerodrome Defence Company - 23 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43
15th Aerodrome Defence Company - 15 Nov 42 to 19 Jul 43


Airfield Defence Battalion(s):

- a platoon in each company of an Airfield Defence Battalion was carrier equipped (various configurations)

1.) - From 19 July 1943 to 1 January 1944:

1st Airfield Defence Battalion (Le Regiment de Chateauguay (Mit.)), C.I.C.
Battalion Headquarters - 19 Jul 43 to 1 Jan 44
No. 1 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 1 Jan 44
No. 2 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 1 Jan 44
No. 3 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 1 Jan 44
No. 4 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 1 Jan 44
No. 5 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 1 Jan 44
No. 6 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 1 Jan 44

and from 1 January 1944 to 1 September 1944:

1st Airfield Defence Battalion (Le Regiment de Chateauguay), C.I.C.
Battalion Headquarters - 1 Jan 44 to 1 Sep 44
No. 1 Company - 1 Jan 44 to 1 Sep 44
No. 2 Company - 1 Jan 44 to 1 Sep 44
No. 3 Company - 1 Jan 44 to 1 Sep 44
No. 4 Company - 1 Jan 44 to 1 Sep 44
No. 5 Company - 1 Jan 44 to 1 Sep 44
No. 6 Company - 1 Jan 44 to 1 Sep 44

2.) - From 19 July 1943 to 15 November 1943:

2nd Airfield Defence Battalion (The Regina Rifle Regiment), C.I.C.
Battalion Headquarters - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 1 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 2 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 3 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 4 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 5 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 6 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 7 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 8 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43
No. 9 Company - 19 Jul 43 to 15 Nov 43


Cheers


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