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wendel daniel 18-04-22 16:16

british ww2 tube
 
Hello everyone
here is my return of the day.
An English-made container.
Does anyone have any information about its usefulness? Card holder, grid sheet holder for artillery board?
I also look for the meaning of the encrypted code and color that appears on it.
This container was found and bought by a collector in the area of St Avold located in france.
thank you in advance for taking the time to read me and for your help
a++
Daniel

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7311.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7312.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7310.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7313.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7315.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7314.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7316.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7319.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7318.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f82/17/20/17/25/sam_7317.jpg

Mike Cecil 18-04-22 17:19

Unit Serial Number
 
It is the Unit Serial Number (USN). It was a British system also picked up and adopted by other countries such as the USArmy.

The British three colour bars correspond to the last two digits: second last digit/last digit/second last digit repeated: from top to bottom if British it should be:
0 - dark brown
6 - buff
0 - dark brown

The USA three colours should be:
0 - dark brown
6 - blue
0 - dark brown

Seems to correspond most closely to a US Army unit in the ETO, but that USN is not on the published (but incomplete) list of 1st US Army D-Day list.

Nor is it on the British War Office Field Force Units list.

It is on the Australian Army list as Queensland Lines of Communications Band. However, many of the USA numbers were duplicates of numbers already issued to far-off Commonwealth countries such as Australia.

Looks like a map tube.

Mike

Chris Suslowicz 18-04-22 17:34

The manufacturer seems to be Uttley Ingham & Co. Ltd of Hebble End, Hebden Bridge, Yorkshire.

They appear in the 1938 "Ironmonger Diary and Hardware Buyers Guide".

Chris.

Richard Farrant 18-04-22 20:28

Just seen this one Epay, wonder if this is the real use?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165348857...IAAOSwNmliE~tz

rob love 18-04-22 20:45

I have a map tube complete with WW2 maps of an excersize out in the shed. I don't think the tube was as fancy is this one, but I'll look when I head out this afternoon.

Tim Bell 19-04-22 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendel daniel (Post 286089)
Hello everyone
here is my return of the day.
An English-made container.
Does anyone have any information about its usefulness? Card holder, grid sheet holder for artillery board?
I also look for the meaning of the encrypted code and color that appears on it.
This container was found and bought by a collector in the area of St Avold located in france.
thank you in advance for taking the time to read me and for your help
a++
Daniel

Daniel

As others have suggested.

It is a map tube... they are quite common and were used by numerous British units including artillery.

I dont know what the markings mean.

Regards

Tim

Tim Bell 19-04-22 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Farrant (Post 286092)
Just seen this one Epay, wonder if this is the real use?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165348857...IAAOSwNmliE~tz

Richard

Correct - Map Case, though at £85, in my opinion (having bought 2 in the last 6 months), a good £60 to £70 above the going rate.

Tim

Mike Cecil 19-04-22 21:34

Saint-Avoid France
 
If it was found in the area of Saint Avoid, as mentioned by Daniel, that location was well inside the American sector, which lends more weight to the USN marking being a US Army unit.

Mike


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