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Stuart Fedak 30-03-10 14:54

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Grant Bowker 30-03-10 15:52

Talk with Bob, Hammond Barn proprietor, he is almost sure to let you try the sandblast cabinet at the barn. Assuming that you don't want to take the CV joint apart to clean out abrasive that will work its way into every unprotected crevice, I would not trust the CV boot (even though it does a pretty good job of keeping blasting road grit out). The protection needs to be both grit resistant and resilient to absorb the energy of the flying grit. Think about how hard it is to blast firm rubber off of a steel substrate and how well the blaster works at taking relatively brittle material like paint off the same steel.

Bob Carriere 30-03-10 17:42

Sand man cometh....
 
OK fine......

Boob

Bob Carriere 31-03-10 04:09

Sand blasting.....
 
One as to be careful about abrasive creeping into bearing or any other device that is greasy and impossible to clean up......

It is ill advised to sand blast a complete running frame with wheels, t case, tranny engine..... UNLESS... you intend or plan to disassamble everything as part of the rebuild......sand.... dust... grit will creep in the almost impossible places.

Blasting media can reduce this problem slightly...... walnut shells left over would be less damaging than sand. In the Blasting cabinet.... which has limits as to the size of the parts...... is loaded with aluminium oxide..... almost as bad as diamond dust if it gets in bearings..... the grit is so small it gets into everything including your nose.... yes it gets there even with a sealed cabinet..... sealed is a "big" word.

We use a shop vacuum to remove the air born dust from the cabinet.... life expectancy of a guaranteed for life HD vaccum motor bearing is about one year of intermitent use.....

It may be easier to sand blast the axle using the big tank outside with the pleasant weather forecast of this weekend......

I would suggest you look into buying some white quartz sand at BMR.... grit size .30 or some black beauty.... silicone free at Princess.....

We are out of stock st the barn.... we prefer the cheap quartz .... cuts fast and we get it by the skid...... about 3200 pounds..... makes for a very smooth riding Ford on the way home..... tend to polish the pads on the helper springs.

Stuart gien me a call to sort out our weekend schedule....

Boob

matthewq4b 31-03-10 07:15

Electrical tape works great for protecting bearing surfaces that you do not want blasted. Use 3 layers and you will have to actually try to get through it to blast it off.
Electrical tape is soft enough that the sand just bounces off it.
Glass Bead will help as it is less agressive than sand. But it is not good for removing scaly rust.


Matthew

Snowy 31-03-10 13:24

For me, I'd pick one of my all-time favourite tools "the poor man's sand blaster" I call it - a cheap angle grinder with a rotary wire mop. Cleans rust, paint, you name it right off anything, and produces very little abrasive by-product. I use mine all the time. The only thing it can't do is get into tight spaces. For that I use a cheap Dremel knock-off with a tiny wire brush :)

Steve.

Lynn Eades 31-03-10 21:30

Steve
 
I note that you like to play with the "edit reason" as well.
Was it a major invasion, or just a minor one? :wacko:
By the way, if your going to clean up a rusty carrier that way, then you would be 100% right. You would be doing it ALL the time. :D

Snowy 02-04-10 07:46

Uhh just a minor invasion, thank you for asking :D

Yes as you've pointed out, rotary wire brushing is slow, I should have mentioned that. I've been doing my Weasel hull with it and it is indeed taking a while. I just do a square metre or two and then prime it. But for small items it's quite a reasonable sandblasting substitute which leaves the brushed surface nice and polished without pitting, and for thin panels there's no heat distortion.

Steve.

cantankrs 03-04-10 04:48

bench grinder w/ wire wheel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Fedak (Post 128733)
...came across one of those wire brush units that mounts in place of a grinding stone on a bench grinder. I picked up a 6 inch wheel and will try that out. That will force me to finally mount the bench grinder with bolts on the bench rather that chase after it on the bench top.

Hi Stuart,

Bench grinders are handy but for heavy work you need a unit with enough power, otherwise the motor just wants to slow and stall - not good for it. I've managed to get 3 phase so I'll get a 3 phase one someday as crikey they can remove metal with a grinding wheel! ..And I know what you mean about chasing them around the bench! :blink: :yappy:

Regards

Alex

Bob Carriere 27-05-10 19:22

Nice job.....
 
....when do you start production...?

Boob

Jordan Baker 28-05-10 04:56

Those look really good. Ive used the wire wheel a lot on my carrier restoration. Since getting the Princess Auto sandblasting cabinet Ive been going back and redoing a lot of the smaller bits. One thing ive noticed is how much rust has "grown" back and how easy the paint comes off from parts that had been wire wheeled.

I much preferd sandblasting now as I find it also gives a great surface for the primer/paint to adhere.

As for you pictures I initialy thought they were PIAT bombs. Boy was I disapointed to see they were Iltis parts. :doh:

REL 12-06-10 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker (Post 131127)
Those look really good. Ive used the wire wheel a lot on my carrier restoration. Since getting the Princess Auto sandblasting cabinet Ive been going back and redoing a lot of the smaller bits. One thing ive noticed is how much rust has "grown" back and how easy the paint comes off from parts that had been wire wheeled.

I much preferd sandblasting now as I find it also gives a great surface for the primer/paint to adhere.

As for you pictures I initialy thought they were PIAT bombs. Boy was I disapointed to see they were Iltis parts. :doh:

If you parkerize or phosphate the parts first after blasting, paint will adhere far better than on any other preparation.

Mike Kelly 15-06-10 03:04

blasting
 
If you have the time, you can make your own cabinet out of plywood . There are plans on the web , just do a GOOGLE .

here's one http://jetbeetle.com/JB_body_sandblaster.htm

and

http://www.autodidactics.com/sand.htm



I wouldn't use plain sand as a media, far better to buy some of the proper stuff , there are so many types . Maybe worth asking your local blaster what he uses and where to buy it . Some of the media types are coarse, which means a rough finish, lots of primer required to smooth it out . Baking soda is great for carbies http://www.aircooledtech.com/tools-o.../soda_blaster/

The cabinet method is by far the best way to go.

I've been told its possible to convert a normal 6 cy. auto engine to a compressor .... run it on 4 cyls. and make up a manifold for the other 2 cyls to compress the air ?

I've also thought of making up a battery of 4 stainless steel LPG auto gas tanks into a receiver ... the more air you have the better .... there are many out of date tanks around for free . If you locate them away from your shed and wrap chains around them .. if one blows it won't fly off like a missile .. even bury them in the ground ! The danger is more from flying tanks rather than shrapnel . Use a long hose to your cabinet

I'vetried the outdoor blasting very noisy and messy ..don't bother .
Mike


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