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Here's some photos I took in Holland 2010

A couple more. We had a great time.

Just a nice colourful photo of a C60L I found while trawling the 'net for other info....

Working class Ford CMP, removing the railway sleepers of the so-called "Blauwe Tram" at Voorburg, Holland.

More early post-WW2 pictures of CMPs in civilian use, courtesy of Bill Murray in CMPs from all over postwar.

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Originally Posted by Bill Murray (Post 189043)

Well, massive rain storms here tonight so no Christmas shopping.

These photos do nothing sitting in my documents files so might as well put them up here.
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/at...9&d=1386538466 http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/at...0&d=1386538493

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 153227)

As noted by Alex, this C60S Cab 12 recently popped up for sale. I had not seen it before in Holland, so I post it up here. You never know what's hiding in the barn! Note the CMP 15-cwt hiding in the background of pic 2.

The C60S had "CMD 60476" painted on the hood.

And it currently sits as a liberation memorial in the owner's garden:

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Another C15 but now under new Dutch management, the first CMP of Martijn.

Hendrik

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Originally Posted by Hendrik van Oorspronk (Post 209477)

Another C15 but now under new Dutch management, the first CMP of Martijn.

Hendrik,

That's great to hear! Will you and Martijn be working on the modifications as outlined at Apeldoorn?

Regards,
Hanno

PS: moved you posting from 'Did Canadian army in ETO use 4x2 CMPs?' to this thread

Hi Hanno, we don't know yet, the engine looks better then expected, so perhaps we will keep it original.

Hendrik :cheers:

Dutch CMPs in the 1980s

Marcel Both sent me some pictures of Dutch CMPs taken back in the 1980s.

Some of them are still out there, others seem to have disappeared from the radar.

C15A Water tank. Where is it now?

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F15A. Where is it now?

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C15A (fitted with crane in civy life) towing a British 1-ton trailer. Ex-Dirk Leegwater, ex-Hans van Ravenswaai - where is it now?

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CGT, Netherlands Artillery Museum:

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F60S LAAT, Hermanides family:

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C60X bodies transferred to GMC chassis

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 106632)

The pictures of this Ford F60L (built in Feb. 1945) were sent to me by its Dutch owner. He has asked me to help him identify the body.
The owner bought the body separately, which he thinks was once fitted on a GMC CCKW-353 - note the long wheelarches in the inside pic.
Maurice Donckers indeed recognised it as one of (at least) five ex-C60X bodies which were transferred to GMC chassis after the C60X was phased out of service.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...02-1945_1_.jpg http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...02-1945_2_.jpg http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...02-1945_3_.jpg

I saw this body again yesterday, the current owner and I were discussing this configuration. There were many Lindsay type house bodies in Laboratory, Machinery, Stores and Switchboard configurations, but we are not sure if there ever was one with only windows in the side and a rear door. Most likely this was part of the conversion done by the Dutch Army.

I checked the MoD Archives and found some pictures for comparison. I suspect it was originally a closed body and the four windows on each side were added when it was “converted to a mobile switchboard in 1955”:

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Source:
https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...3-eee67befbce2
https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...2-428959546644
https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...e-2815c23603d1

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Hanno,

I agree that this is most likely a Dutch post-war conversion, as I am not aware of any versions with 4 windows each side and no front windows. Detailed pictures of the body, and any remains of welds and holes could help with determining more about it's origins....the two wingnuts and brackets on the left wheel-house could be remains of the spare wheel carrier, but hard to tell.
you say "a rear door"...does it have only one? Is there a locker on the right hand side front of the body?

Here is another picture from the NIMH archives, with 4 Lindsey bodied trucks, two of which seems to match the body as indicated in this thread. One of the two might actually be the surviving body.

enlarged from this picture:

https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...d-ab668a65651d

If you look in Gregg's "Canada Fighting Vehicles" you will note that the "Chemical warfare laboratory" is somewhat close, with 1 of the same windows (in the same position) and no workbenches or doors in the sides, but there were none in the Deelen dump post-war as far as I know. There were however 2 TEV Army C60X trucks in the Deelen dump in 1946, so that is a possibility. It's a hunch however, as the body could also easily have started life as a Stores body as they were plentiful!

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