More Finds
 

Hi Rob

More good finds, now I'm working on capturing the photos and video, wish they were little larger in size. Though some of the still photos I have tracked back to bigger images. Interesting about the vehicle name Betsy, I'll have to dig back through the books and see if there is any mention of Big Betsy as being the HUP Betsy as being the original 3 ton.

Cheers Phil

More Broadcasting Shots - Including a HUP
 

Not sure if these have already shown up...interesting website. (Edit - Just found Phil's website on a search - http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...BBCinWWII.html)

http://taylorempireairways.com/2010/...radio-1943-44/

Nice Interior Shots - Museum HUP
 

The video was taken at the new Cdn War Museum in Ottawa - as mentioned under "see more" tab...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2eZX67JwAA

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Αnother fine HUP adorns a private Museum in Athens since last May. Does anyone knows more?

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HUP Strangeness
 

We have seen many HUPs in strange places and circumstances. While we have a break in the never ending HUP internet search, here is some "strange" HUP stuff to ponder.

When you look at the rear end of the HUP (C8A) frame you will see that the last crossmember has quite an assortment of holes punched into it (see pic below from Phil Waterman's website http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...20Page%202.htm ).

What were these holes for? So far, all I have is a theory. What's your take?

Hitched HUP
 

Assen NL - Strange to see a HUP with a trailer hitch...good shots of the HUP start at 1:35 mark of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1HCIqWI7kU

And the year before - see 3:48:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLwVE...eature=related

Artistic HUPs
 

It would appear that the HUP appealed to those with an artistic bent. There are photos of other CMPs sprinkled throughout the follow on pages.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45085600@N06/

Hitch Holes
 

I just did a walk thru of the C8AX Tac Sign Thread - page one ( http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=13576 ).

Looks like the mystery of the holes has potentially been solved. My theory: All C8A frames had the last crossmember fitted for but not with a hitch. The C8AX hitch set up as seen in the photo at the bottom of page one leads me to that conclusion.

Motel in Florida
 

Hi Rob:

Sitting here surfing. Off to dive the caverns in mid-Flroda in the morning. Justin says hi!

To Russia with Love!
 

I found a HUP photo at this Russian website:
http://news.mnogonado.net/content/ar...oj.htm?id=1205

A loose translation of the relevant text: Canada sent entirely insignificant quantities of these Chevrolet C8A vehicles, which were used, as a rule, in the artillery subdivisions as the tractors of heavy instruments.

Even the Russians wanted more HUPs.

Rob,
This is the initial link: http://avtolife.my1.ru/news/2008-05-08-254

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Here is an ex Greek Army HUP, which - after civilisation- heavily modified to cargo truck, resting in a crapyard. Early '90's. Unfortunately it's fate is unknown...

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HUPs and Fate
 

She looks like a late 45 model given the holes in the door for handles and the metal window frames. It would be interesting to investigate to see if it still exists.

Lift rings.....??????
 

Did they have lift rings on 45 HUPS......?

Good Question - what was the date of the change
 

Hi Bob

If you mean the wheel lifting flanges, yes, most of the datable 1945 HUPs and larger CMPs have the lifting flanges. But I don't remember the actual date of this change.

The addition of the lifting flanges on rear axle, for the HUP, is not a big deal just means longer bolts. With larger CMPs the rear axle flange would be a little more difficult as the use studs and locking cones on each bolts, so adding the lift flanges would mean longer studs and some accommodation for the cones would have to be made between the lifting flange plate and the axle end.

The front lifting flange requires the front brake drums be drilled for larger mounting studs. I've never check to see if the old stile nut cap and the lift flange type are inner changeable other that the bolt/stud size.

Your question though prompts and interesting question than I'm going to post as a new thread in Soft Skin Forum.


Cheers Phil

The most recent acquisition at the barn, a C15A, had the lifting rings. One thing of note was that on the rear axle there were the usual axle shafts held in place by the split and tapered cones. Outboard of the cones, the lifting rings are held in place by longer versions of the studs used on vehicles without the rings, however there are plugs within the lifting ring that have a flange outboard of the lifting ring and a barrel within the lifting ring slightly longer than the lifting ring is thick. These plugs are a loose, but not sloppy, fit in the lifting ring to ensure that the clamping force of the nut on the driveshaft flange studs is passed directly to the tapered cone washer and not absorbed by the lifting ring.

Αnother C8A HUP at the Internet Movie Car Database:

Staring at the IRON EAGLE IV (1995):
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3...leiv1995on.jpg

What happend that HUP?

the HUW is still around
 

Hi Haridimos,

The military vehicles in Iron Eagle IV are owned by the Ontario Regiment Museum ("the Ferret Club") in Oshawa. Most of the shots shown were taken in and around the Museum located on the South Field of Oshawa Airport.

The HUW (serial # 2844515234, built Aug 14, 1942) is still in the collection but currently is in storage. When I last saw it, it looked a lot like it did in the picture from the movie although it now has an engine installed and will move on its own. It is usually on display for the OMVA annual shows, sometimes with a 19 set installed.

Brian

HUPs and other CMPs
 

Some interesting shots here: http://flickeflu.com/groups/1663433@N23

Some we have seen before. Some of the trucks belong to some of us.

Quite the variety (includes fine scale models). Most enjoyable CMP peep show. A local (Ottawa) celebrity can be found in one of the photos.

First pic
 

Euan may just recognise the CMP in the first two pics.

Keith Has Some Interesting HUP Shots
 

For those who have not yet visited Keith's website ( http://www.oldcmp.net ), you should. I came across some genuine gems
( http://www.oldcmp.net/austhups_1.html ) Note the lack of substantial rust - very strange indeed...

This world wide community of rusty truckers is amazing.

a HUP wrecker in Belgium
 

Here is a HUP disguised as a wrecker in Belgium. From our books at http://www.frituurzorro.nl

I just purchased Theo's books, both No.1 and No.2 and the photos are really great. Both books are certainly the sort you all should have in your library.

Thanks Theo.
Regards Rick.

frituur zorro 3
 

..and there is even more to come. Volume 3 appears in september

This image appeared in a British classic commercial mag some time ago and shows two hups used by Thorne civil engineering in the 1950s. They were and still are a civil engineering company and one our old customers but were military surplus dealers after the war

Here's a picture of a rebodied CMP truck, I think it is a HUP. Sorry for the bad quality picture, it was printed in a newspaper as a mirror image.

It was used in the 1970s by a Dutch travel company called Baobab for overland trips into Africa.

Ortona
 

Canadian Army Newsreel - Battle of Ortona: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoxEmnlJ1Mw - a HUP appears with what looks like an assault boat on the roof (???) at the 13 second mark.

Hi Hanno,

I think that this one is a FORD. Why? Well the shape of the diff points to a Timken split diff not a banjo. The lifting flanges on the front axle also point towards a FORD. I don't think that Chevs had them, well not here in Australia anyway.

Regards Rick.

Exept for these ones :thup2:

Hi Rick,

You could be right about the diffs, but 1944-45 Chevs had lifting flanges just like late Fords.

H.