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Wayne Hingley 05-08-17 16:47

Thanks Brad. Its not perfect, as it still shows some of the signs of its 20 year career in the CF. it also has a birthday coming up in December (50 years old). Its still a youngster compared to most of the beautiful vehicles on this site.

Wayne Hingley 08-08-17 23:23

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Progress seems like it has slowed down again... I did manage to complete the hookup and testing of the electrical system, and I got all of the interior components back together. The clutch is adjusted, and I'll try to get the brakes finished tonight. I haven't tried to start it yet, but I did test the starter and it turns over nicely.

rob love 08-08-17 23:52

I guess it depends on what year you are trying to portray, but the extinguisher and the SMG locations were swapped around...I believe for security reasons. The (blue) extinguisher ended up on the dash.

Looks great though Wayne. Personally, I would have been tempted to drive it around for a couple years in it's semi gloss green, then cam it once that paint stopped looking "new".

Wayne Hingley 09-08-17 01:17

Hi Rob: I know there was a position swap of the SMG and fire extinguisher at some point, however this particular jeep seems to have avoided that change. There were no holes in the dashboard for the extinguisher mount, and likewise there was no hole pattern for the SMG mount down on the top of the toolbox between the seats. I decided to leave those two accessories as they were (I didnt want to drill any new holes). I wonder if many other jeeps avoided the swap of those items. I don't yet have a blue Ansul extinguisher, but Ill be keeping my eye open for one in good condition that is looking for a new home.

Good point on the paint scheme/succession... I guess I got a bit excited and couldn't stop painting until it was all gone... haha (Im glad the painting is over).

rob love 09-08-17 01:58

I think I have an old blue one out in the yard somewhere. There are also some out in my favorite scrapyard, but they will need rebuild. You could move all the stuff from the red one over to the blue one.

Wayne Hingley 09-08-17 02:09

Great, thanks Rob. If you come across one while digging around, grab it for me. My friend is in the fire protection business, and he thinks one of his suppliers can service the Ansul extinguishers (to be confirmed though).

Wayne Hingley 09-08-17 06:06

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Brakes are done. Some final checks tomorrow night, and I'll try to fire it up. Fingers crossed!

super dave 10-08-17 07:25

WOW looks great, Hope to see it in Red Deer.

Ed Storey 10-08-17 15:02

M38A1CDN2 Restoration
 
Slick looking restoration, nice work.

Wayne Hingley 11-08-17 05:21

Thanks Ed and Dave. I took it for a short test drive today. Still a several little things to do and adjustments to be made. Some will wait until this winter.

David Dunlop 11-08-17 05:33

Hi Wayne. You are doing a beautiful job!

Been a very long time since I have seen an M38A1 CDN2 in person. Just wondering about your fuel primer pump set up which I think is the large brass item to the right of the master light switch assembly.

I have only ever seen these mounted with the main brass body mounted behind the dash assembly, leaving just the black handle and throat lock nut visible on the face of the dash itself. Was this installation different for the CDN2?

David

Wayne Hingley 11-08-17 06:26

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Hi David. The way you describe is the way it is mounted on my 1953 jeep. My understanding (and someone can correct me) is the CDN2's originally had these primers mounted down low to the left of the ignition switch. However that location is just in front of the driver's knee and not practical. The modification was to drill a hole and mount them up in the location you see. They did not mount them flush with the dashboard in that new location (as far as I know). Again, someone please confirm (Rob Love...?)

A poor photo below (from 1968 Operators Manual) that shows the primer in the location by the main switch, and mounted with the brass body on the driver side of the dashboard. The windshield washer fluid pump eventually took the empty position to the left of the ignition switch... Im not sure what year that modification came around. In the photo from the manual it looks like there is a plug in that hole. Perhaps the primer was located up by the main switch from the factory.

Update: I just noticed the windshield washer fluid pump shows up in the 1970 update of the Operator's Manual.

jdmcm 12-08-17 02:57

Fantastic work Wayne! Can't wait to see it in person!

John

Wayne Hingley 12-08-17 18:50

Made some timing adjustments and...
 
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...took another test drive this morning. Working much better, but not perfect yet. Still a small hesitation, and sometimes hard to start. Ill keep adjusting...

Im not getting enough (or any) vacuum to run the wipers. I may need to rebuild the pump. Unless there are any suggestions on how to improve vacuum.

A few photos from today's drive around the neighbourhood. My two boys (8 & 10 years old) absolutely love riding in the jeep! :cool:

rob love 12-08-17 19:29

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Originally Posted by Wayne Hingley (Post 241090)
Hi David. The way you describe is the way it is mounted on my 1953 jeep. My understanding (and someone can correct me) is the CDN2's originally had these primers mounted down low to the left of the ignition switch. However that location is just in front of the driver's knee and not practical. The modification was to drill a hole and mount them up in the location you see. They did not mount them flush with the dashboard in that new location (as far as I know). Again, someone please confirm (Rob Love...?)

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http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/at...3&d=1281490718

Photo above from this site shows the primer pump set up the same as yours Wayne. I suspect with the close proximity to the light switch, the two may have interfered with each other if mounted the usual way.

Wayne Hingley 12-08-17 19:52

Great photo Rob. I had not seen it before. Also a good visual on the alternate location for the SMG and fire extinguisher.

Particularly unusual (to me) is the reverse orientation of the park brake lever (using the seat mount bolt). I have never seen that before. Was that common, and what was the reason? Was it to avoid interference with the SMG?

rob love 12-08-17 20:25

That is the only reversed one that I have seen. Certainly not an approved modification.

As to interference with the SMG, many Jeeps would have never seen an SMG in them. It was more of an armored weapon, although they were well interspersed into all units.

Wayne Hingley 20-08-17 01:54

Vacuum issue...
 
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Originally Posted by Wayne Hingley (Post 241148)
...Im not getting enough (or any) vacuum to run the wipers. I may need to rebuild the pump. Unless there are any suggestions on how to improve vacuum.

One of the copper vacuum lines on the windshield was completely plugged with crap. Once it was cleaned out, the wipers work great. Of course I had already switched in a spare fuel/vacuum pump, as I assumed that was the issue (I need to remember to always check the easy stuff first!).

rob love 20-08-17 04:00

It sounds like the mudwasps. They used to often build their nests in the vent line of the Jeep wipers, rendering them useless.

The little buggers have even been attributed to airliner crashes when they have either blocked pitot tubes or relief valve vents.

Wayne Hingley 20-08-17 06:25

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It sounds like the mudwasps. They used to often build their nests in the vent line of the Jeep wipers, rendering them useless.

The little buggers have even been attributed to airliner crashes when they have either blocked pitot tubes or relief valve vents.

That's a new one to me... it was packed full of fine dark brown powder (mud?). It was so dense that I had to use a 12" long 3/16" drill bit to auger it out. Then I could get a stiff wire in there to clean it out. I've never heard of mud wasps, but it sounds like what I had.

chris vickery 20-08-17 16:14

Unbelievable! A guy who actually drives his restoration and will go in the bush with it. No trailer queen there. Keep up the great work Wayne.
BTW, decals received, look great.

Phil Waterman 20-08-17 21:15

Mud Wasps
 
Hi

Really good point about checking lines for foreign stuff, ie wasps nest. I found them in other crud in brand new brake and fuel line lengths from the auto part.

Really messes up a brake job.

Taken to blown Q-tips through any new or old lines, works great as long as the lines are straight. Anything bent or too small for the Q-tip I use mechanics wire.

Yes, I do like people who actually drive their MVs, one of the guys in our local club just finished restoring a M38 which had been his trail ride Jeep for years, we have been kidding him that we would be glad to put the first scratch in it so he could go back to enjoying it in the woods. If he doesn't find a trail jeep by next spring, would be willing to bet he will be back in the woods.

But you can drive MVs in the woods/trail with little more than branch scratches. I all ways like to follow some thing a little bigger than my truck which helps avoid scratches.

Cheers Phil

Wayne Hingley 20-09-17 06:02

Scratches
 
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I have been putting a few miles on the jeep after getting it inspected and registered. Interesting to note it has never been registered in any province since leaving service in 1987.

I live about 7km from the nearest pavement, which makes it hard to keep the dust off everything... so it shows that it's getting some use (and as Phil notes; a few scratches too).

Wayne Hingley 12-11-17 04:52

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I was planning to take the Jeep in to the Calgary Military Museum for Remembrance Day services, but due to the recent snow, the highways were very messy with salt and grime. Unfortunately I had to cancel. :whinge

So instead, I took the Jeep out for a drive around the local neighbourhood. It was a nice day for a drive. :remember:remember

Peter Phillips 19-11-17 15:43

That looks awesome Wayne! Is this considered closure to start the M37 now? :salute:

Wayne Hingley 19-11-17 16:04

Thanks Pete. This one is close to complete. I still have a couple of small things to finish off.

The M37 is covered in snow, and I doubt it will get any attention before spring. I have been rounding up a few of the parts I'm going to need. Lately I have been playing around with a 318 radio shelter (slide-in) that I plan to put in the back of the M37.

Ed Storey 19-11-17 17:17

M38a1cdn2
 
A fantastic photograph of an exquisitely restored M28A1CDN2.

jdmcm 20-11-17 19:03

Great job Wayne, beautiful restoration and super attention to detail, fantastic!

John

Wayne Hingley 08-03-18 04:41

Big smile on my face...
 
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We have been having some very nice sunny winter days lately. It was time to give the Jeep a bit of exercise. Nice little run around the neighbourhood.

Phil Waterman 08-03-18 13:36

Like the photo
 
Hi Wayne

Like the B&W photo gives that period feeling to the picture. Sort of hard to tell if the photo is today or just after the Jeep went into service.

I'll be out with one of my trucks later today packing down the 10 to 12 inches of snow from the over night. Frost is out of the driveway so plowing is not the first option.

Cheers Phil


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