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CF Camouflage Post-1990

Yeah the topic of post-1990 Canadian SMP vehicle camouflage is an interesting and convoluted story. At the time the vehicle compounds were quite the sight with Canadian three-colour, NATO Temperate three-colour and Canadian green only vehicles all intermingled with each other.

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Originally Posted by rob love (Post 169818)

Correct paint for a Cdn2 is green only. Camo paint was no longer applicable to the B vehicles from the time of the manufacture of these trailers. Funny how they made the tarps in cammo though.

There are a few corrections to Terry's trailer observations:

1: The M100 was made by the US and Canada, and possibly other countries. Towards the end when we ordered fenders for them we were getting the anguilar M416 fenders, so a M100 could well have those.

2: The M101 came out in the 50s, and could be ID'd by the early M38A1 style brake handles. The M101a1 came out in the late 60s, early 70s, and had the M151A2 style brake handles. Then there was the MANAC, which came out as a companion for the 5/4 ton with the commercial rims and tires and surge brakes.

3: The M416 was never bought by Canada. It was strictly American and matched the M151 family.

4: The M101Cdn2 was the Iltis trailer which replaced the M100 family. Some well meaning desk in Ottawa gave it that nomenclature which was technically incorrect. As well, M-series numbers are not usually applied to non-US designed equipment. I mentioned to the trailer LCMM back when the Iltis trailer came in that it could lead to confusion when ordering parts, but his reply was that the 3/4 ton trailers were soon leaving service. And they did, a short decade later.

What type of handbrake does the M101CDN2 use? Also, is it safe to say that the M101CDN2 is simply an M101 but with angular fenders?

C

The M101CDN2 is Canada's version of the US M416 1/4 ton Trailer.

Ed's comparison to the M416 is somewhat close. The M101Cdn2 was a replacement for the M100. It has no lineage to the M101, which was a 3/4 ton trailer.

The body of the M101Cdn2 is unique. Similar to the stampings of the M100, but with 1/8 plate re-enforcing the corners, and square stock on the upper edge, as opposed to the round edges of the earlier 1/4 ton trailers.

The hitch is M416, with two heights that it could be set to.

The springs are just commercial, with plastic bushings. They have no comparison with any of the US military trailers. Same with the axles....purely commercial and Canadian.

Park brake handles are the late type, as used on M416 and on just about every SMP after the late 60s.

Thanks Rob.

Does anyone have a hi-res close-up photo of the trailer, either with or without an additional frame? This must be in CF use and not privately owned.
Please send to clive@servicepub.com. The photo will be used in an upcoming WOW booklet.

Thnx,
Clive