Rick,
 

A Lynx is basicly a truck chassis/drive line with a Dingo hull planted on it. The Lynx has none of the beautifully designed drive line parts from the Dingo. Wilson pre-selective 5 speed gearbox, transfer with forward and reverse, bevel boxes at each wheel station, 4 wheel steering on Mk1's, independent double springs on each wheel station, dry sump engine, etc etc. Technically a Lynx is pretty basic and doesn't look as good as a Dingo either. :D

Cheers,

Evidently, beauty is in the eye of the beholder!! :salute:

Mike C

You are right Mike!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,also in the eye of the wrench twister
I have worked on both and the Lynx is a kiss machine (keep it simple stupid)
and also has an electrical system that is not hooked to earth
Stew

I think this thread...
 

should be moved to the proper forum site. To much valuable insight here to remain in the sale or trade area. Just a thought. Cheers Rob

Interesting to note IS the electrical system. 12Volts, 6volts and 4.5volts all on one Ford vehicle.

The generator is a 12 volt unit, unusual on a Ford V8 vehicle. It supplies current to two 6volt batteries(6x2=12) for the No11 and No.19 radios. The rest of the lighting is usual Ford 6 volts and the V8 coil operates off 4.5volts. All wires are in shielded cables and there are radio suppression straps everywhere.

(I too think that this should now be moved to a proper thread.)

Regards Rick.

electrics
 

4.5 volt coil, that was another piece of genius from Mr. Ford?

Courtesy of Henk Minne a picture of a Staghound crossing a ditch on bridging trays.

H.

Moved to the armour forum.

HTH,
Hanno

Hi Guys,

That doesn't sound "simple stupid" to me. Dingo's were 12 volts through out, did also have 2 batteries though. Mechanicly they are very complicated to the point of being "over-engineered", I will grant you that. But to me that is one of the interesting things about my Dingo. A design from the late thirties and then all this sophisticated stuff in one vehicle. I have a copy of one of the contract cards from the WD and Daimler. Unit price is listed as GBP 925. This does not sound like a lot but you could buy several small houses for that amount in those days....

Of course the Lynx is also a interesting vehicle as it is also of ww2 era. But one of the advantages of a recconnaisance vehicle like the Dingo is low profile. The Lynx lost that feature.

As Mike C. say: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The proportions of the Dingo somehow look more "correct" to me. But then I might be slightly prejudiced... :)

Cheers,

Lynx manuals
 

... how hard are these Lynx/Otter/Fox manuals to find? Rarer than the Blitz stuff?

Greetings
Chris

Hi Hanno

Thanks and thanks. :)
regards
Darrell

Chris,

The simple answer as far as Australia is concerned is 'yes', due to the small numbers of Lynx scout cars and Fox AC (chassis/running gear only for the Fox ), and no Otters, supplied to Australia during WW2. Therefore many Blitz manuals, few Lynx manuals and even fewer Fox manuals. And just a small number of Otter manuals, though why these were supplied is a mystery. I have seen only one Otter manual in Oz (and it's not there anymore......) Anyone else seen an Otter manual in Australia??

Mike C

Japan BOC LYNX
 

I believe the BCOF had a few Lynx on issue in Japan . The Commonwealth ocupation forces that is .

MIKE

manual
 

I have a NOS OTTER RAC-C2 manual in my collection I bought at a clearing sale in Victoria in 2011. I have seen two others for sale in recent years in Australia. One on ebay. I believe there is a seller in Gippsland that may have more, but that is just a hunch.

Thanks, Ryan, that means that there were a few Otter manuals in Oz at least, but why, I wonder?

Mike Kelly: re BCOF and the use of Lynx SC by 1st AC Sqn in Japan: see my earlier post on this thread for some details regarding this.

Hope you are all having fun at Corowa. Had to fly back to the USA from Oz last Thursday, so missed the fun by just a few days!! As a well-known Toyota add says: BUGG**R!! :bang:

Still, off to Arizona and Texas soon, so life is not too bad....

Mike C

Hi there! Here are 2 photos of the Australian Lynx in the UK. Photos sent to me by a mate. I cant recall the details other than it was an Aust one. Taken in circa 2003.

Phil...

FOX Manual
 

Just had a look in the library and found that I have a manual for Car Armoured Canadian G.M.Mark 1, Fox 1.

Interesting though are the blueprints in the back pocket for the 30cwt Electrically Operated Mobile Crane built by the Metropolitan Gas Company

This was an Australian post war conversion of the Fox chassis.

Another use for the Fox chassis, I think, was as a street sweeper. John Bellfield has/had one in his scrapyard.

Rick,

The METGAS electric crane was wartime. It was the use made of the chassis after the Rhino HAC project folded.

The street sweepers were a post-war civilian use.

See the Rhino chapter in my AMEP Volume 3: 'Aust Scout and Armd cars' for details.

Mike C

So to bring this conversation back to the Lynx, I am working on one located here in the Shilo museum. While replacing all the hydraulics for the brake system, I noted that the brake tubes are all copper. Has anyone seen this on other Lynx? I think this vehicle came from Greece at one time. Perhaps a previous owner did not do the lines properly. They were also only single flared, vice the double flaring which is standard on any brake system I have seen.

Vehicle is now all steel for the brake tubing. Just waiting for the last of the hydraulic parts before re-assembling the wheels.

Thanks for the correction Mike. There is no date on the blueprints so I wrongly assumed they were post war.
Regards Rick.



Rob,

My brake hydraulic lines were all steel. (Badly rusted so will have to replace.)

Regards Rick.

Thanks Rick, I was pretty sure they would be. Even back then, they seemed to have similar standards as we do today with regard to the tubing used.

Is this the same one?

http://www.milweb.net/webverts/68230/

Tim

That is an interesting one. It is a Lynx II and one of the last ones built.(Not to be confused with the Lynx I (Mk.II, Mk.III or MkIII*) It does not have the folding roof of the Lynx I, but increased metal around the opening. The positioning of the ancillaries around the engine is also different to the Lynx I.

The routing of the electrics to the instrument board is also completely different to the Lynx I (Mk.III and Mk.III*).

The Lynx I (Mk.III*) had either 2 or three hinges on the rear hatch. I see that they have saved a hinge on this Mk. as well as it only has 2.

It would be interesting to see the hull number. That is located on the ID. Plate to the right of the driver below the hatch and repeated on the flat plate in front of the vertical front plate with the hatches in it on the right side. It will also give the month and year of manufacture. On the left opposite side the number is also stamped on the flat plate in a bigger font than the right, but not as clearly or deeply stamped.

Regards Rick.

Mike K, 109 of the 170 Ford Lynx Scout Cars Australia received went to Japan to be used as Policing vehicles with BCOF. The original plan was for Staghounds to do the job but the Japanese roads were not up to carrying the 13 tons of Staghound. So the 109 Lynx Scout Cars were sent to replace them.

Mike C. I have a question for you. Did these 109 Lynx scout cars return to Australia after our commitment ceased with BCOF? Or were there only 61 Lynx's left in Australia after our commitment finished?

I have only been able to track down 14 or 15 in Australia over the past 30 years. Two just recently went to New Zealand and there was one sent years ago to England, so the numbers come down to a dozen or so left in OZ.


Mike C. I have just re read this thread and see in No.29 that you have answered my question about the return to OZ of the ones which went to Japan. Thanks.



Regards Rick.

With regards to a Lynx moving from Australia to Canada in the 1990's, I think that might be one that Jim Fitzgerald and Reg Hodgson purchased up in Edmonton.


David

In one of the old Convoy Mags is a picture of a Lynx on a farm, with a large homemade hydraulic scoop attached to it. this If I remember correctly was somewhere in western Canada... it was known to at least one collector...

anyone know what became of it????

Alberta Lynx
 

Al Nicholson knows all about that converted Lynx, it was located in Cherhill or some place of a similar name.