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Mike K 18-04-09 07:42
pics
 
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Just in case anyone doubts my sanity.

pics ..the doors are NOS I found about 1982 at Camberwell ..of Ford manufacture I believe.

Mike

cletrac (RIP) 18-04-09 10:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Price (Post 112576)
David,
If you were referring to my email, I can't see any snaps on the top of the door frame in either of your pictures. Also, fastening the top of the curtain to the top of the door frame (which is an immovable part of the roof) doesn't make sense as one would have to unfasten the top of the curtain each time they opened the door.
Jim,aren't those your five snaps across the top?

Jim Price 18-04-09 18:20
Mike,
I didn't doubt for a minute about your sanity! Mac's has a part no. A180620, Side Curtain Rod Socket, shown in their latest catalog. The detail in the drawing of it is insufficient to see whether the socket itself is square or round. I may need to call them on something else and will ask. Will let you know what the answer is.

Regards,
Jim

Jim Price 18-04-09 18:27
Top Door Frame Snaps
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cletrac (Post 112585)
Jim,aren't those your five snaps across the top?
David,
Aah! The detail in your latest picture does clearly show the snaps on the upper door frame! However, because it is an inside-the-cab picture, one cannot tell from it whether there is a separate piece of canvas snapped in place or that this particular side curtain had a top flap that snapped in place there. I still rather doubt this latter possibility because of the awkwardness of having to unsnap the top each time the door was opened.

Regards,
Jim

Mike K 19-04-09 03:32
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Originally Posted by Jim Price (Post 112593)
David,
Aah! one cannot tell from it whether there is a separate piece of canvas snapped in place or that this particular side curtain had a top flap that snapped in place there. Regards,
Jim
Jim,

There isn't any separate item you describe ( canvas piece ) , listed in the Chev cab 11/12 parts list .
Mike

Jim Price 19-04-09 04:40
Mike,
A canvas piece might have been a after-war add on by the civilian owner. However, it does look like it would serve much the same as the piece that goes on the windshield frame, i.e. keep water from "wicking" around the top of the door frame and into the cab.

Regards,
Jim

cletrac (RIP) 19-04-09 04:49
It looks to me like the side canvas just folds over at the top and snaps in place. It would make it awkward when opening the door, but I can see where you'd want to eliminate that draft if it was -30C or so. I was going to put -40C but how would you get one of those engines started at that temp?

Grant Bowker 19-04-09 13:55
Quote:
Originally Posted by cletrac (Post 112628)
It looks to me like the side canvas just folds over at the top and snaps in place. It would make it awkward when opening the door, but I can see where you'd want to eliminate that draft if it was -30C or so. I was going to put -40C but how would you get one of those engines started at that temp?
There were two levels of cold weather preparation that claimed effectiveness to -20 degrees and -40 degrees. I don't know if they really were as effective as claimed.

Jim Price 20-04-09 03:24
David,
It does make sense to me, even though it might be awkward, that one would want to snap up the top of the curtain to eliminate any unnecessary drafts. Having said that, it might have been wishful thinking......

Regards,
Jim

Maurice Donckers 20-04-09 07:58
Top fasteners are for clip on piece were side screen rests against , see my picture of top of cab , it is an original one . It is flat canvas with a round rubber stitched into it .
Old Fords and other Old timers have that same square socket in the doors for side screens , and they also have round rods for the sreens , Square sockets make sense so the rods don`t jam that easy.
if somebody needs more pictures of the top canvas piece let me know , also a picture of how the rods are in the side screen.

Jim Price 20-04-09 19:34
Maurice,
Please send out some more pictures of the top canvas piece.

Thanks,
Jim

Maurice Donckers 23-04-09 07:40
side screens
 
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here pictures from reaf of curtain with rods in . the first is of a dark stone collored one.

Maurice Donckers 23-04-09 07:46
More side screens
 
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here pictures from Rad cover and the bag for side screens. Last picture is for FAT Collectors

Alex van de Wetering 23-04-09 21:55
Could there be a difference between cab 11 and cab 12 side curtains....regarding size of the clear sections, type of rods used and shape of bushings in the top of the door? Or just differen manufacturers?

@ Maurice. The grill cover looks like a great accessory and I have never seen one in real life. Thanks for posting the picture.



Alex

p.s. I have sent you a PM. I have an interest in a set of curtains if you are willing to part with a set.

Ganmain Tony 14-04-19 01:41
Revival
 
Was going over this thread and it has really really useful info Cab 11/12 owners

Perhaps it could be made into a sticky thread.

What do the moderators think?

Hanno Spoelstra 16-04-19 21:31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganmain Tony (Post 260107)
Was going over this thread and it has really really useful info Cab 11/12 owners

Perhaps it could be made into a sticky thread.

What do the moderators think?
Hello Tony, indeed a useful thread. But not for everyone. So I would propose members to make their own "favourites" or "bookmarked threads" topic.

Here is an example of what Alex did: Reference: HOW-TO topics on MLU...techniques, tricks etc.. I will gladly make such a thread a sticky.

Would this work for you?

Regards,
Hanno

Bob Carriere 16-04-19 23:46
Would work for a lot of us......
 
It might be a good idea to document the possible different model/different manufacturers that where available....... they did come in assorted color according to the parts book...... but none in RED

Ganmain Tony 17-04-19 06:27
Sounds Good
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 260183)
Hello Tony, indeed a useful thread. But not for everyone. So I would propose members to make their own "favourites" or "bookmarked threads" topic.

Here is an example of what Alex did: Reference: HOW-TO topics on MLU...techniques, tricks etc.. I will gladly make such a thread a sticky.

Would this work for you?

Regards,
Hanno
Works for me Hanno. Thank you :thup:

Ganmain Tony 01-05-19 23:18
Maurice
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers (Post 112523)
I Stiched new window plastic in the ones I have in the truck . I also have a set wich is collored in a dark desert yellow . And I have from the same material a radiator cover.
The rods are solid and round even at the bottom .there are little tubes welded on the top ones corners, so you can slide the upright ones in .
if they are mounted , the screen is a nice tight fit in the cab , but if you unbucle the 3 doorfasteners , and lift it out the two upright ones fall out of the bottom of the screen . In practice they went in the mud , to not be botherred about anymore . You have to take the 3 rods out off screen so you can fold screen double and put it together with the rods in the bag behind driver.
I noticed in one of your earlier posts Maurice you appear to be the proud owner of the side curtain rods for the 11/12 Cabs.

Are you able to provide some measurements of these? Just length and diameter would be really really useful.

Please??

Ganmain Tony 09-05-19 08:43
For the record
 
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The fasteners at the bottom of the side curtains that clip it onto the door are these in the picture.

The ones that go into the door are A81002

Used om T-Model Fords.

Ganmain Tony 19-03-20 05:28
Curtain Rod Holders
 
Afternoon Gents,

Ill stick with this thread because I am attempting to get the rods and curtains spot on with new reproduction materials.

Part of this involves getting the rod holders in the doors right.

I just rang a die cast place who suggested the mould may cost $3000!!!!!!

My next question is obvious - does anyone know where there may be some new old stock ones???

I have tried the ones from Mac's that suit Model T's and A's but they don't quite fit properly.

Suggestions??

Mike K 19-03-20 11:38
Square holes
 
Tony

You need one of those drills that makes square holes ��

There is a process called broaching, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broaching_(metalworking) square holes are made possible . Would it be possible to fabricate new sockets from aluminium or brass stock rather than a casting process ?

Ganmain Tony 03-06-20 13:38
Update
 
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OK... Its been a while but this project has been embarked upon.

I have had the help of a engineering business in Corowa for the rods and the Canvas has been very well done by a professional trimmer who specialises in the WW2 gear.

This is the result..

Mike K 04-06-20 13:39
Matt
 
Looking good

I posted the original curtain to Matt just after Corowa. The vinyl trim piece around the clear plastic windows is a dark green on the original , we discussed it at Corowa ?

Ganmain Tony 05-06-20 03:19
Mike
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Kelly (Post 270010)
Looking good

I posted the original curtain to Matt just after Corowa. The vinyl trim piece around the clear plastic windows is a dark green on the original , we discussed it at Corowa ?
I think you're right Mike. Maurice's example on page one of this thread certainly supports that. His example has green vinyl.

However - if you have a look at Jim Prices example further down it has a black surround.

I have yet to do the fasteners at the bottom. Matt did leave the curtain a bit longer for alteration if necessary.

m606paz 16-12-21 16:11
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Container side curtains C01Q 18491 B

Keith Webb 16-12-21 22:49
Side curtain bag
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m606paz (Post 284009)
Container side curtains C01Q 18491 B
That is a spectacular find!

m606paz 16-12-21 23:36
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Illustration n°54 F60 Spare parts list

m606paz 18-12-21 13:19
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Bag 22 x 15.5 inch
Pocket 9 x 11,5 inch


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