Is it possible that the order was written in such a way that at face value it appears to be taking action but in reality it is so full of holes it won’t hold water?
Was it purposely written in such a convoluted manner that the door was left open to challenge the government on it? With the inclusion of 10 and 12 gauge shotguns for example, whether by design or purposely, this has given lobbyists on our behalf at least some technicality to fight them with, or at the very least rile up all shooting sports enthusiasts. I hope, that with the wording, perhaps having to be re-written, some items may be dropped. Is an OIC a hard fast and permanent thing or can it be amended under Canadian Law? |
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Looking at the latest firearms reference tables (FRT), it shows the PIAT and 2" mortars as being exempt from regulations. At this point, they seem to have just changed the firearms/rocket launcher, grenade launchers, and mortars that were specifically listed in the OIC. But the firearms center have a job to do so no doubt the "prohibited" status of the ones missed will be changed at a later date.
There is an FRT entry for the PIAT. Not sure how it meets the scrutiny of a firearm in the first place as it does not have a barrel. But the FRT does reference to the "trough" as a barrel. |
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I subscribe an online FRT lookup site by www dot armalytics dot ca. It is possible the PIAT was added as a "negative" placeholder so there would be no questions about its status. Edited to add: https://www.armalytics.ca/?q=project...%5Btype%5D=all |
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Over here a large tax company spent a whole 5 hours NOT listening to a few govt. selected notable firearms people to put together valuations for the whole gambit of firearms for the thing called "a buyback".
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Just lost another hour of my life....enjoyably for a change.. Amazing what's banned..M 72(though they dont specify loaded or not) is, but the Turkish M72, made under licence is not.. 2" Mortar is not, 4.2 in is...3 in doesn't exist... |
The firearms act was not really written towards these materials, and it will be close to impossible to meet the storage regulations for some of these items. The inclusion of a lot of these will have been for the purposes of preparing for the OIC. They have a lot of catch-up to do now in order to list all possible models of artillery, mortars, grenade and rocket launchers. This is all towards meeting the present governments agenda of looking like they are serious about crime. Meanwhile, the punishments for the illegal users and smugglers have been lowered in recent years by this government.
To the general public, they will agree that there is no place for civilian ownership of these items, thinking that they can be used to cause mass deaths. They do not see that in virtually all cases, the owners act as private museums and messengers of history. I have had my bren carrier loaded with it's equipment at many carshows downtown, and never had anyone complain. It made it into the newspaper a time or two...no complaints. |
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Amazing to me something we've done for decades is suddenly dangerous and needs shutting down. In an odd way it's 'them' that we are honouring and bringing their achievements to the public. |
A once proud Canadian, I shall never, ever again, fly a Canadian flag nor display one on or near anything that I own.
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Perhaps we should get rid of golf courses as well as golf clubs. Many a person has fallen victim to these otherwise innocuous tools of the game when used in a violent manner. Golf courses in and of themselves, are vast spaces of overly fertilized greenspace that would certainly be more suited for the Greater Good for things likes housing developments, or ahem, even as places to grow food... eg Farmland. Think of the children. The environment suffers. Your golfing is not important to me. Providing places to live in peace without the weapons of the game potentially used in domestic violence situations far outweighs your need for an otherwise stupid sport. If you can call beating a ball to death a sport.
Furthermore, golf and country clubs encourage immoral behavior and out of control drinking. We all know where this leads... Booze, driving home, domestic assault once you get home and the wife beats you over the head with a frying pan because you've been gone all day and now you're drunk. On that note, the wife. The frying pan. Instruments of certain death in the kitchen. Knives. Rolling pins. Where does this madness stop??? |
This what happens when you have the woke socialist running government which we in the UK found out, trying to rid the remaining guns we have left.
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They knew in 2013...and did nothing...The RCMP can explain to those families why they did absolutely nothing...
atlantic.ctvnews.ca/neighbour-reported-n-s-mass-killer-s-domestic-violence-weapons-to-police-1.4936459 |
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If our friends are using the Nova Scotia rampage to slam in their ban then they are politically capitalizing on a tragedy to push though something that has nothing to do with it. Oh, and in the middle of a pandemic with no parliament or public debate. No matter how you slice it, it doesn't make our friends look very good. |
There was also a report that his father was beat up by his son on a trip to Cuba, and also reported by his father to the RCMP that he had firearms. I think that was 4 or 5 years ago. RCMP chatted with him at the time then left.
One other report said he had a friend in the RCMP who had viewed his completed and decalled cruisers. He warned him not to take it onto the roadways. Despite all this, the RCMP initially reported that he was not really known to them, indicating there was not much or nothing on CPIC about him. And somehow it's our faults? |
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Losing your property and investment is one thing. Losing it to lies is something else again. |
Same BS here. Australian came to live here. Had a firearms licence in 5 weeks due to not being vetted properly (current P.M. relaxed the rules) Police were in the process of getting rid of the vetting officers. Police issued a permit to buy 3200 rounds of ammo. The 1984 arms act is said to be the best firearms legislation in the world. They've changed it all. It is now the fault of the legally licensed. Same crap here and there...............
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As of the 15th of this month, the Trudeau government has added 255 more firearms to the OIC ban. More semi's, pump and bolt action firearms. It looks like this thing is open ended. Please make use of the E-petitions (E-2574, E-2576) if you want to have any sport shooting at all left in this country.
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Unbelievable... Im so sorry for you guys :support
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Casual conversation with a Wheat Farmer of Sask., during a day on the job. I like the humour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ygh...ature=youtu.be |
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Probably a measure of half the population?
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Soooo, a .303 SMLE must very cumbersome to carry with all that ammo. Like, you know, a Belt fed bolt action, right? :bang: |
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I'm in on this one!
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But Good Citizens can sleep safely, for although this inflammatory weapon was not mentioned in the 1st May List, it can never fall into the hands of Ruthless Criminals, Deranged Drug Addicts or Miffed Ex-Employees because it was Swiftly-Dealt-With in the 1st April Declaration. |
Belt-fed No.1 Mk III
Cheekiness is alive and well in Oz! :thup2:
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